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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: date formats</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Stein Gjoen <<A HREF="mailto:sgjoen@mail.nyx.net">sgjoen@mail.nyx.net</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:40:25 +0100</li>
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David Merrill wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:32:49AM +0100, Stein Gjoen wrote:
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> > Since SGML is supposed to help authors follow a strict grammar, why not
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> > use it to the fullest here? How about something like this:
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> > <date>
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> > <year>2000</year>
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> > <month>12</month>
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> > <date>11</date>
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> > </date>
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> > or
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> > <date>
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> > <year>2000</year>
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> > <week>49</week>
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> > </date>
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> > If you are used to SGML the added verbosity should not be a problem.
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> > This then also simplifies date reformatting into style used in other
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> > countries.
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> Are you talking docbook or linuxdoc here?
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I was thinking of both.
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> Either way, it seems to me that using ISO dates (YYYY-MM-DD)
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> accomplishes the same thing with less complexity. If we were just now
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> designing db, I *might* agree with you. But there has to be a pretty
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> clear benefit to making a change of this type to an existing standard,
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> and I don't see one.
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It would seem to me that verifying correct date format with sgmlcheck
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or equivalent is simpler the way I suggested it. Also it forces the
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author to keep the problem in mind while converters can format using
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locale settings to a more familiar formats for reading.
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Time/date can be presented in a number of ways and stated with a
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great range of precision. Having lived in countries that present
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dates as MM-DD-YYYY, DD-MM-YYYY and YYYY-MM-DD I can see the
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benefits of forcing the author here.
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Trivia2: in Japan year is occationally stated as the year of the
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emperor's reign.
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<date>
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<emperor>Heisei</emperor>
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<year>20</year>
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</date> (Am I Close??)
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Trivia2b: I have heard that in England some kind of legal documents
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are dated by the year of the regent.
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<date>
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<regent type="Queen" issue="II">Elisabeth</regent>
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<year>30</year>
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</date> (Definitely not quite correct here)
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Well, that is enough merriment from me on a Monday morning.
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Exuberantly,
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Stein Gjoen
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<li><strong><a name="04593" href="msg04593.html">date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Merrill <dmerrill@lupercalia.net></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04594" href="msg04594.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> "Greg Ferguson" <gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04600" href="msg04600.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc@cu-portland.edu></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04601" href="msg04601.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Merrill <dmerrill@lupercalia.net></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04614" href="msg04614.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Lawyer <dave@lafn.org></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04622" href="msg04622.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Miroslav Skoric <m.skoric@EUnet.yu></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04625" href="msg04625.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Lawyer <dave@lafn.org></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04627" href="msg04627.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Sandy Harris <sandy@storm.ca></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04628" href="msg04628.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Stein Gjoen <sgjoen@mail.nyx.net></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="04630" href="msg04630.html">Re: date formats</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Merrill <dmerrill@lupercalia.net></li></ul></li>
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