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<li><em>To</em>: Taketoshi Sano &lt;<A HREF="mailto:kgh12351@nifty.ne.jp">kgh12351@nifty.ne.jp</A>&gt;</li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:43:13 +0900</li>
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<li><em>In-reply-to</em>: &lt;<a href="msg04536.html">20001202000948I.kgh12351@kgh12351.nifty.ne.jp</a>&gt;; from kgh12351@nifty.ne.jp on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:09:48AM +0900</li>
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:09:48AM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote:
&gt; Hi.
&gt;
&gt; In &lt;<a href="msg04528.html">20001201104814.A3639@kldp.org</a>&gt;,
&gt; on &quot;Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:48:14 +0900&quot;,
&gt; with &quot;Re: tag for translators?&quot;,
&gt; &lt;kss@kldp.org&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; As far as I know, the current linuxdoc-tools have some problem with
&gt; &gt; debian(because of japanese-groff patch which debian's groff package uses).
&gt; &gt; Is it fixed already? When I first heard about linuxdoc-tools from
&gt; &gt; Choi, I got to know there is some problem with debian(from debian-kr
&gt; &gt; mailing list) &amp; linuxdoc-tools. So I didn't even try it. I'm sorry Choi...:-)
&gt;
&gt; I have posted the patch for groff to the debian-i18n list, and
&gt; the BTS #66928 &amp; #71744. I don't know why the maintainer of
&gt; groff use it. Maybe he is busy now. You can send a request/reminder
&gt; to the maintainer of groff, I think.
Oh...I will check it and mail to the maintainer of groff....
&gt; &gt; Now let me see.....
&gt; &gt; The current linuxdoc DTD has two varients(I think &quot;linuxdoc&quot; for
&gt; &gt; original author, &quot;linuxdoctr&quot; for translator because it accepts
&gt; &gt; &lt;trans&gt;, &lt;tdate&gt;).
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; How about merging the two DTDs and make the &quot;linuxdoc&quot; accept
&gt; &gt; &lt;trans&gt;, &lt;tdate&gt;? If it is acceptable, this will be a clear solution.
&gt;
&gt; I have tried to do it, but there has not been enough time yet.
&gt; The problem I have is the fake error message from groff when using
&gt; linuxdoc with trans and tdate for sgml source without those elements
&gt; (i.e. an original version, not translated one).
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Or if mapping &lt;trans&gt;,&lt;tdate&gt; to &lt;othercredit role=&quot;translator&quot;&gt; operates
&gt; &gt; properly, local translation effort would be much easier.
&gt;
&gt; I don't get this. Do you mean using trans and tdate in DocBook DTD SGML ?
&gt; Maybe I will not agree with it. Excuse me if you mean another thing.
Mapping &lt;trans&gt;,&lt;tdate&gt; doesn't mean that it need to be declared in
DocBook DTD as a new tag now. I mean that tools like ld2db(convert
linuxdoc sgml to DocBook sgml) need to be upgraded in order to
map &lt;trans&gt;,&lt;tdate&gt; into &lt;othercredit role=&quot;translator&quot;&gt; properly because
&lt;othercredit&gt; is the right place to specify the information of
translator FOR NOW.
And in parallel, I think we need to lobby to DocBook staff to add a
separate tag for translator(&lt;translator&gt;?).
After DocBook has officially upgraded and add &lt;translator&gt;,
the ld2db map &lt;trans&gt;,&lt;tdate&gt; into &lt;translator&gt;.
&gt; &gt; (Of course the ldp.dsl need to be changed so that &lt;othercredit&gt; is printed.)
&gt;
&gt; I wish to have it also, but I'm not ready to hack the DSSSL sheet yet.
I think it will be done shortly because Greg Ferguson said
&quot;It's on my list. I hope to get to it today.&quot;. :-)
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<li><strong><a name="04526" href="msg04526.html">Re: tag for translators?</a></strong>
<ul><li><em>From:</em> Taketoshi Sano &lt;kgh12351@nifty.ne.jp&gt;</li></ul></li>
<li><strong><a name="04527" href="msg04527.html">Re: tag for translators?</a></strong>
<ul><li><em>From:</em> CHOI Junho &lt;cjh@kr.FreeBSD.ORG&gt;</li></ul></li>
<li><strong><a name="04528" href="msg04528.html">Re: tag for translators?</a></strong>
<ul><li><em>From:</em> =?EUC-KR?B?sce8+Lyx?= &lt;kss@kldp.org&gt;</li></ul></li>
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