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<h1>Re: SGML/XML proposals for Linux Standard Base</h1>
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<li><em>To</em>: Dan Scott <<A HREF="mailto:dan.scott@acm.org">dan.scott@acm.org</A>>, <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org">ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org</A>, <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org">ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org</A></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: SGML/XML proposals for Linux Standard Base</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: "Greg Ferguson" <<A HREF="mailto:gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com">gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:48:19 -0500</li>
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<li><em>Cc</em>: <A HREF="mailto:gk4@us.ibm.com">gk4@us.ibm.com</A></li>
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<li><em>In-reply-to</em>: Dan Scott <dan.scott@acm.org> "SGML/XML proposals for Linux Standard Base" (Nov 15, 11:29pm)</li>
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On Nov 15, 11:29pm, Dan Scott wrote:
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> Subject: SGML/XML proposals for Linux Standard Base
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> Hey guys,
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> George posted this a little over a week ago (albeit with a deceptive
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> subject). Basically he would like to get feedback from people that
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> care about SGML and XML configuration and set up (hello Greg, Mark,
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> every new author that has struggled with the setup for Docbook,
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> et al!). Assuming that we can arrive at some mutual agreement,
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> the Linux Standard Base also feels that we could lend their proposal
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> a certain amount of legitimacy.
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> That's assuming that we take a look at it. I've been marking up the
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> proposals and will offer some opinions in a few days, once I've had
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> time to actually digest the content. I'd love to hear the opinions
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> of those more wise in the ways of *ML than me...
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> [...cut...]
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>> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00012.html">http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00012.html</A>
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>> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html">http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html</A>
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The proposal seem to be well-thought out. A lot of this is
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analagous to how the tools area for publishing LDP
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documents was setup, to provide support for multiple
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DTDs and stylesheets:
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dsssl/
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docbook (currently used styles)
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docbook_1.56
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dtd/
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docbook_31
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docbook_41
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docbookx_41 ("x" denotes XML)
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jade-1.2.1/
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...
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sgml-tools/
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...
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etc.
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The only part I was a bit confused with was in the
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discussion concerning entities:
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"...we chose to avoid deciding not to decide."
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but then specifics *are* mentioned in the 2nd document
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(<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html">http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html</A>).
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"The file names should be fixed to:
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ISOamsa.ent ISOamsb.ent ...
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The identifiers should be fixed to:
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"ISO 8879:1986//ENTITIES Added Math Symbols: Arrow Relations//EN""
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Is the hope that what is proposed in the 2nd doc emerges as
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the standard (which seems reasonable...)?
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This was where I personally had a lot of trouble in first establishing
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a decent processing environment: finding/installing the right
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set(s) of entity files, figuring out where they belong so the
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catalog file(s) properly reference them, etc.
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The central catalog idea is very nice. Right now, I set
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(in a script) an environment variable (SGML_CATALOG_FILES)
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with a list/string of the various catalog(s) needed for
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processing. The proposal makes it easy for a user to point
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to one location.
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I'll look through it more closely, but on first inspection it
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looks very solid; a job well-done (from my perspective anyway).
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r,
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--
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Greg Ferguson - s/w engr / mtlhd | gferg at sgi.com
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SGI Tech Pubs - <A HREF="http://techpubs.sgi.com/">http://techpubs.sgi.com/</A> |
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Linux Doc Project - <A HREF="http://www.linuxdoc.org/">http://www.linuxdoc.org/</A> | gferg at metalab.unc.edu
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