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<li><em>To</em>: ldp discussion <<A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org">ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: SGML/XML proposals for Linux Standard Base</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:camille@mandrakesoft.com">camille@mandrakesoft.com</A></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:15:14 +0000</li>
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<li><em>Cc</em>: Dan Scott <<A HREF="mailto:dan.scott@acm.org">dan.scott@acm.org</A>></li>
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Hi all,
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FYI Linux-Mandrake 7.2 conforms with the proposal.
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Camille.
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Dan Scott a <20>crit :
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> Hey guys,
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> George posted this a little over a week ago (albeit with a deceptive
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> subject). Basically he would like to get feedback from people that care
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> about SGML and XML configuration and set up (hello Greg, Mark, every new
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> author that has struggled with the setup for Docbook, et al!). Assuming
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> that we can arrive at some mutual agreement, the Linux Standard Base also
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> feels that we could lend their proposal a certain amount of legitimacy.
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> That's assuming that we take a look at it. I've been marking up the
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> proposals and will offer some opinions in a few days, once I've had time
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> to actually digest the content. I'd love to hear the opinions of those
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> more wise in the ways of *ML than me...
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> Thanks,
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> Dan
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>
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> --
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> Dan Scott,
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> Friend of the abnormal.
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>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:40:06 -0600
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> From: George Kraft/Austin/IBM <gk4@us.ibm.com>
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> To: ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org
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> Subject: Unidentified subject!
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> Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:45:33 -0500
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> Resent-From: ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org
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>
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> A while back there was a set of proposals brought forward to the Linux
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> Standard Base regarding: SGML Directory layout, DocBook Directory layout,
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> Open Catalog usage for SGML, Open Catalog usage for DocBook, Configuration
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> files, Iso-entities, and Packages. I would like the Linux Documentation
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> Project to (1) review the proposals, and (2) if acceptable, endorse these
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> proposals.
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>
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> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00012.html">http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00012.html</A>
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> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html">http://lists.debian.org/lsb-spec-0008/msg00013.html</A>
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>
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> Would someone within the LDP be interested in DocBook formatting and
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> supporting this chapter of the LSB?
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>
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> George Kraft IV
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> gk4@us.ibm.com
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> LSB Written Spec Program Manager
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>
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> George Kraft
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> 08/31/2000 11:14 AM
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>
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> To: FHS Discuss
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> cc: eric@caldera.de, docbook-tools@bazar.conectiva.com.br,
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> rosalia@lanl.gov, rf@caldera.de, rw@caldera.de, johannes@caldera.de
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> From: George Kraft/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
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> Subject: FHS PROPOSAL: SGML & XML
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>
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> Enclosed is a proposal, submitted by Eric Bischoff, for the FHS regarding
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> SGML & XML. The more detailed second part of this proposal has been
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> submitted to the Linux Standard Base to be adopted as an addendum to the
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> LSB written specification. See the LSB's lsb-discuss email archive for
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> more details regarding that proposal <A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/lists.html">http://www.linuxbase.org/lists.html</A>
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> It is proposed that the FHS adopted the enclosed and integrated it into the
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> specification.
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>
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> Introduction
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>
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> In a normalisation effort, about thirty people, including packagers
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> of some Linux distributions, and developers of SGML related tools such
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> as the SGML-Tools and DocBook Tools project, discussed informally and
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> agreed on a series of recommendations that will be submitted as a draft
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> to the Linux Standard Base project. A reference implementation will also
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> be done as part of the DocBook-tools project.
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>
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> This document addresses the FHS part of the project.
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>
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> This document makes several references to "catalogs": these files
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> represent the dorsal spine of a SGML or XML system. They are mainly used
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> to map things (that are called "entities" in SGML or XML terminology)
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> into real file names. A catalog can reference other catalogs through
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> pointer directives (CATALOG, DELEGATE). For more information, see the
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> Open Catalogs standard at <A HREF="http://www.oasis-open.org">http://www.oasis-open.org</A>.
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>
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> /etc/sgml/
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> ----------
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>
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> In /etc/sgml one can find configuration files that describe the installed
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> components of a SGML or XML system.
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> Files found there include:
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> *.conf: generic configuration files
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> *.cat: DTD-specific centralized catalogs
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> catalog: the super catalog
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> The generic configuration files define high-level parameters of the SGML
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> or XML system.
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>
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> The "centralized catalogs" are catalogs that reference through pointers
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> all the other catalogs that are needed to use a given DTD. The referenced
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> files include the DTD's catalog, style sheets catalogs, character entities
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> sets catalogs, etc. All the files that are referenced reside somewhere
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> under /usr/share/sgml.
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>
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> The "super catalog" references through pointers all the centralized
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> catalogs. Unlike the centralized catalogs, it does not guarantee the
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> absence of definition conflicts between referenced catalogs.
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> At least for the present, all XML documents are also SGML documents,
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> so it seems unnecessary to create /etc/xml.
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>
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> /usr/share/sgml/
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> ----------------
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>
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> In /usr/share/sgml reside architecture-independent files used by SGML
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> or XML applications: ordinary catalogs (not the centralized ones), DTDs,
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> entities, style sheets, and other declarative files, if any.
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> It is organized at top-level into DTD-specific subdirectories, when
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> applicable:
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> docbook/
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> tei/
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> html/
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> mathml/
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> ...
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> Other files that are not specific to a given DTD may reside in their own
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> directory. When we say "specific to a DTD", it does not mean that those
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> files describe a DTD, but only that they are to be used with this DTD.
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> At least for the present, all XML documents are also SGML documents,
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> so it seems unnecessary to create /usr/share/xml.
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> George Kraft IV
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> gk4@us.ibm.com
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