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<li><em>To</em>: Poet/Joshua Drake <<A HREF="mailto:poet@linuxports.com">poet@linuxports.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: License policy proposal</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: David Lawyer <<A HREF="mailto:dave@lafn.org">dave@lafn.org</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:26:48 -0700</li>
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<li><em>Cc</em>: David Lawyer <<A HREF="mailto:dave@lafn.org">dave@lafn.org</A>>, <A HREF="mailto:guylhemlistes@ifrance.com">guylhemlistes@ifrance.com</A>, <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org">ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org</A></li>
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> >So in conclusion I think we need our own license that would ban
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> >advertising. Better yet would be to get Richard Stallman to change
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> >his license.
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> > David Lawyer
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On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 10:43:50PM -0700, Poet/Joshua Drake wrote:
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> The advertising issue is easily solved by the proposal. It specifically
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> states that the LDP will not accept documents that include advertising.
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Unfortunately it doesn't solve the problem. First, if the doc is
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modifiable, anyone can just add advertising to it. Second, one may
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use frames for displaying it and put flashing advertising in one of
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the frames. Another way is to force the reader to look at an ad after
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reading each page (the "pager" alternates between ads and the doc). A
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good license can prohibit this.
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There is another problem too and that's the dual licensing problem.
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As some of you know, Star Office is to be released under both GPL and
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another license. Unfortunately, the other license takes away implicit
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rights granted by GPL. In this sense it's a sham since some people
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think that it grants all the rights given by GPL. Can one license
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take away implicit rights granted by the other one? Well, to find out
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you would have to go the Star Office's court (the one located near
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their corporate offices) since it's specified in their license. GPL
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is silent on this issue which implicitly implies that the venue is any
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appropriate court.
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There are other rights that are also taken away. You can't modify the
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software any way you want. It may be legal to take away such rights.
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Even for rights explicitly granted by GPL, GPL does not say that these
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rights are inalienable. Thus any license needs to prohibit dual
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licensing. You might say: What if the two licenses have the same
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provisions but say them in different words? In this case the licenses
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should be merged into one license.
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David Lawyer
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