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<li><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:dan.scott@acm.org">dan.scott@acm.org</A></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: Navigation, was Re: Idea : common dir and tree</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Stein Gjoen <<A HREF="mailto:sgjoen@mail.nyx.net">sgjoen@mail.nyx.net</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:44:50 +0200</li>
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Dan Scott wrote:
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> and each of these directories typically has its own distinct structure of
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> subdirectories. Note the obsessive use of abbreviations and avoidance of
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> capital letters; this is a system invented by people to whom repetitive stress
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> disorder is what black lung is to miners. Long names get worn down to
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> three-letter nubbins, like stones smoothed by a river."
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I was once told the abbreviations was due to the noise each character
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caused on the teletypes they used in the early days of Unix. This of
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course suggests DEC used silent teletypes for making VMS or deaf
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programmers.
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> So, yes, perhaps capitalizing the first letter of each directory would make it
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> a bit easier for new users to find the directory they're looking for,
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> particularly if they had to wade through screens full of names: but for the
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> LDP documents we're only talking about 7 file or directory names (00-index,
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> index.html, html, pdf, ps, sgml, and text). And then we're structuring
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Not quite. We have all the web pages of the LDP website which includes
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copyright, manifesto, list of contributors, pointers to translations,
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lists of documents sorted according to numerous criteria and more. The
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webmaster knows how many there are but it is clearly much more than a
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screenful of files.
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> our docs in a way that doesn't reflect the structure of the majority (okay, I
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> don't have hard numbers to back me up) of the operating system that these new
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> users are trying to become familiar with. I think we would be better off
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> sticking to Unix traditions and include a pointer to Stephenson's document for
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> those who want an explanation--maybe in the index.html file?
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Scanning through an old Redhat machine here I see in /usr/doc we
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already have FAQ/ HOWTO/ HTML/ and LDP/ and a scan in /usr/lib
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shows 76 directory names with uppercase letters.
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The terseness remains but people seem to have found the shift key
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to be rather noiseless.
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A pointer to Stephenson's document would leave many people in the
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dark and promotional sites are notorious for continuous reorganizing
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of web pages. It would be slightly better to get permission to
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copy it and put it in the proposed auxilliary library. Bruce Sterling
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has alwys been liberal in his copyrights, perhaps Stephenson might
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be so too. Cyberpunk in the early 80's was a movement a little bit
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like the Linux movement in the early 90's...
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While this might seen quite tangential we should keep in mind that
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this could lighten up the boring image of the LDP.
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Regards,
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Stein Gjoen
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<li><strong><a name="03353" href="msg03353.html">Re: Idea : common dir and tree (Rep:Re: Why not create packages?)</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Jorge Godoy <godoy@conectiva.com></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="03522" href="msg03522.html">Re: Navigation, was Re: Idea : common dir and tree</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Dan Scott <kinetix@sympatico.ca></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="03530" href="msg03530.html">Re: Navigation, was Re: Idea : common dir and tree</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Stein Gjoen <sgjoen@mail.nyx.net></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="03547" href="msg03547.html">Re: Navigation, was Re: Idea : common dir and tree</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Dan Scott <kinetix@sympatico.ca></li></ul></li>
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