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<li><em>To</em>: LDP <<A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org">ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: Tags (searching)</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Gary Preckshot <<A HREF="mailto:garrell@inreach.com">garrell@inreach.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:13:42 -0700</li>
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Greg Ferguson wrote:
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> Once AGAIN I want to re-interate...
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> 1) There is a tag/field/structured search capability that is
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near
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> completion -- the OMF metadata framework.
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> Please see <A HREF="http://metalab.unc.edu/osrt/omf/">http://metalab.unc.edu/osrt/omf/</A>
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>
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> 2) One goal of the LDP *should be* to utilize this technology as
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a
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> primary tag/field/structured search capability, in addition
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> to the "shotgun" full-text search.
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> There is no sense to re-inventing the wheel if this provides
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the
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> necessary capabilities and can be easily hooked into the LDP.
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> 3) I initially helped to populate the database with a set of
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HOWTOs
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> and guides which I filtered to XML "records" from their
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native
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> linuxdoc. This filter needs some work, needs to be exapnded
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to
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> use DocBOok, but the concept is in place and will work!
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> I intend to continue with this work/effort, unless I hear
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otherwise
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> from the LDP.
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If we weren't talking about it, you wouldn't have
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been able to post the above. If you'd been more
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talkative about what you were doing, we wouldn't
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be talking about what we're talking about. It must
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be evident that a whole lot of folks have no idea
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what's going on behind closed doors, or somebody
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besides yourself would have mentioned it.
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> I also tend to believe that setting up "tag sets" is far too
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limiting
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> and taking the inherent power of the SGML away from the author.
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If we weren't talking about it, you wouldn't have
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been able to post the above. If you'd been more
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talkative about what you were doing, we wouldn't
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be talking about what we're talking about. It must
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be evident that a whole lot of folks have no idea
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what's going on behind closed doors, or somebody
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besides yourself would have mentioned it.
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> I also tend to believe that setting up "tag sets" is far too
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limiting
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> and taking the inherent power of the SGML away from the author.
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SGML was designed specifically to limit authors.
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DTDs prescribe a structure for documents and
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DocBook is an exception - a general DTD - , where
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the intention was to have corporate DTDs or
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publisher DTDs that permitted the corporation or
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publisher to format the document the way they
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wanted after the author wrote it. So what
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"inherent power" are you talking about?
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> The DTD
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> is already designed/constructed to allow for "tag sets",
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dependant upon
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> the top-level container tag chosen - <book> or <article>. Let's
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> concentrate on the development of solid, robust templates and a
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brief
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> set of authoring rules/guidelines (such as those Poet mentioned
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-
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> no minimalization of tags, no use of deprecated tags, etc).
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Getting
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> into specific tag usage and/or customized tags leads us astray
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from the
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> standard...not a good thing to do.
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>
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It doesn't lead us astray from using the standard.
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It just delineates sets of tags that LDP is using
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for specific purposes, and deprecates the use of
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tags that give LDP tools problems or are going to
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disappear from DocBook. DocBook is so big, the LDP
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may want to restrict the use of some tags because
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they don't contribute to the "look and feel" that
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LDP wants in its howtos. After all, DocBook
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Articles are not HOWTOs. DocBook was not written
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specifically for howtos. It was written to
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accommodate all sorts of documents up to, and
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including, books. By using a subset of tags, LDP
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retains standardization (what can be non-standard
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about using standard tags as defined by the
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standard?). By additionally defining a set of tags
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that set off search fields, LDP uses SGML in one
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of the ways envisioned when the standard was
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promulgated.
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Gary
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