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<h1>RE: experimental release of linuxdoc-tools (based on sgml-tools 1.0.9)</h1>
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<li><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr">sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr">sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr</A>>, Greg Ferguson <<A HREF="mailto:gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com">gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: RE: experimental release of linuxdoc-tools (based on sgml-tools 1.0.9)</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Gregory Leblanc <<A HREF="mailto:GLeblanc@cu-portland.edu">GLeblanc@cu-portland.edu</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:20:58 -0700</li>
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<li><em>Cc</em>: Taketoshi Sano <<A HREF="mailto:sano@debian.org">sano@debian.org</A>>, <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org">ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org</A>, <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org">ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org</A>, <A HREF="mailto:dave@lafn.org">dave@lafn.org</A>, <A HREF="mailto:cg@cdegroot.com">cg@cdegroot.com</A>, <A HREF="mailto:guylhemlistes@free.fr">guylhemlistes@free.fr</A>, <A HREF="mailto:gferg@metalab.unc.edu">gferg@metalab.unc.edu</A>, <A HREF="mailto:debian-sgml@lists.debian.org">debian-sgml@lists.debian.org</A>, <A HREF="mailto:JF@linux.or.jp">JF@linux.or.jp</A></li>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Adam Di Carlo [<A HREF="mailto:adam@onshore.com">mailto:adam@onshore.com</A>]
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 7:43 AM
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> To: Greg Ferguson
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> Cc: Taketoshi Sano; ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org;
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> ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org; sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr; dave@lafn.org;
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> cg@cdegroot.com; guylhemlistes@free.fr; gferg@metalab.unc.edu;
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> debian-sgml@lists.debian.org; JF@linux.or.jp
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> Subject: Re: experimental release of linuxdoc-tools (based on
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> sgml-tools
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> 1.0.9)
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> "Greg Ferguson" <gferg@hoop.timonium.sgi.com> writes:
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> > I'd like to see if we can get linuxdoc support into the v2
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> > sgml-tools packages. We'd need to provide the DTD and a
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> > set of DSSSL stylesheets along with perhaps a couple of
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> > catalog files.
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> Um, I don't think linuxdoc *has* a DTD or DSSSL files.
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It does have a DTD, on my RH system it's in /usr/lib/sgml-tools/dtd. It
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does not have DSSSL files, because (I think) all of that is handled directly
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through the tools. The original system doesn't appear to be very
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extensible, although that could just be me.
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> OTOH, SGMLtools Lite or whatever *could* support sgmltools v1 or
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> linuxdoc tools or whatever it is called. Supposing that software is
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> already installed, all it would have to do is provide the capability
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> to wrap around the linuxdoc scripts with it's own 'sgmltools' wrapper.
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> If anyone wants to do this, apply as a developer at sourceforge.
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> > Do you think we should go that route? That way we have 1
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> > toolset (jade/openjade), with support for both DTDs (DocBook
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> > and Linuxdoc).
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> I approve of one tool which is extensible -- it's name is sgmltools
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> lite, now a days. I object to the idea of merging the linuxdoc
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> perl/ASP or whatever it is back into the sgmltools lite package.
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I don't think that it's really practical to merge them. The original tools
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do some things a heck of a lot better than any of the newer ones (text
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output from Linuxdoc is much better, although not quite perfect). Maybe if
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we can get a text converter for generic SGML, then this will make sense.
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I just read Greg F's email, so I'm going to reply to that here as well (I
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get at least two copies of this anyway, I might as well reduce the number of
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posts).
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It's probably true that creating a DSSSL stylesheet for Linuxdoc wouldn't be
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all that complex, but I'm still a little troubled by the lack of a good text
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backend. I haven't seen any mass-migration of the LDP authors to DocBook
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yet, so I haven't really pushed to get something better than Lynx.
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Grego
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