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<h1>Re: political action?</h1>
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<li><em>To</em>: LDP <<A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org">ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: political action?</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Gary Preckshot <<A HREF="mailto:garrell@inreach.com">garrell@inreach.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:58:22 -0700</li>
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"der.hans" wrote:
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>And you're looking at him through a scope based on your reply :).
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A friend of mine and I wrote a network operating system. Immediately we were
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besieged by people wanting their favorite this or that include in the OS. We
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refused on the basis that what they wanted was at a level higher than the OS.
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The problem with a political action HOWTO is that it contaminates the LDP with
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concerns that are not at its level. It's as much a design issue as anything. The
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design of the LDP has the objective of documenting Linux and the problems
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involved in getting Linux to run on various hardware platforms. As soon as you
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get everything but the kitchen sink in LDP, you lose focus. Like Bill Gates and
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his attempt to make a web browser an integral part of Windoze. I'm looking not at
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our political action proposer but at the effect his submission would have on the
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purpose of LDP. I admit it's through a scope, but that scope is design purity.
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The discussion we've been having about SGML is exclusively about design and how
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to make LDP more accessible to new authors who would prefer never to have contact
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with SGML. This has nothing to do with politics and shouldn't have.
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>> Linux is an enabler. It enables all sorts of people to use
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>> computers for whatever they want, be it political action or
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>> pornography. What the LDP is for is for documenting hardware
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>Aren't those two the same at the US-national level[1]? ;-)
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At the national level all they have is a hammer, and everything is a nail.
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>Why can't a political HOWTO be technical? I'd love to see info on
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obtaining business licenses making sure you're doing everything legal
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added to the consultants HOWTO. The same type of info could be in a
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political HOWTO. Links to FSF and similar orgs would be handy. As would be
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sites that are dedicated to law and technology.
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It doesn't have anything to do with Linux documentation. This is called the LDP,
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you know.
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>BTW, FSF is political. It's taken a stand on UCITA,
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1) They aren't using the equivalent of LDP to do it.
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2) UCITA strikes at the very basis of FSF. It's equivalent to Linux being
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outlawed. As a matter of fact, assuming they could find someone to sue, Linux may
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also be subject to UCITA.
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>He doesn't have to be supporting any particular political action (which is
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what I suggested in email directly to him :).
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He wants to use the resources of LDP, which is more the issue. The LDP isn't
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about political action. If it publishes a HOWTO about political action, the IRS
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may suddenly take an interest. Up to now, LDP probably hasn't even considered
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it's tax exempt status. But if LDP is perceived as an advocacy organization,
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contributions of money, effort, and equipment are no longer tax exempt. Also, if
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someone uses the political HOWTO to promote something our sponsors see as
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inimical to their interests, they won't be pleased.
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>And if UCITA makes it backwardly legal to sue people and jail them due to
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Open Software they've written?
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Deal with it like the FSF has. Keep it separate from the LDP, and if necessary,
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spin it off into a separate entity so that tax questions don't impact the LDP.
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Gary
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> David Lawyer <dave@lafn.org></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="02327" href="msg02327.html">Re: political action?</a></strong>
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