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<li><em>To</em>: ldp-discuss <<A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org">ldp-discuss@lists.debian.org</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: Editor flame war</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Gary Lawrence Murphy <<A HREF="mailto:garym@canada.com">garym@canada.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: 02 May 2000 14:06:02 -0400</li>
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<li><em>Organization</em>: TCI: Business Innovation through Open Source Computing</li>
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<li><em>References</em>: <<a href="msg02148.html">A5F46F4ED18FD211ABEE00105AC6CF077F8037@email.cu-portland.edu</a>> <<a href="msg02151.html">m3zoq96ls3.fsf@maya.linux.ca</a>> <<a href="msg02158.html">3910492B.6BBBA5C6@linuxports.com</a>></li>
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<li><em>Reply-to</em>: Gary Lawrence Murphy <<A HREF="mailto:garym@canada.com">garym@canada.com</A>></li>
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Oh, I just _love_ mailing lists :)
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The Swedish government just passed a new law requiring all official
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documents to be written using vi? :)
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If you believe that, I have some Florida real estate you may be
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interested in purchasing.
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Let's agree on just one thing: Different editors exist because
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different people have different goals and needs, and this is another
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reason why, for structured data, the LDP should standardize on a
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format that is 100% editor independent, ie DocBook.
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You can write DocBook in any WP/texteditor you wish. You cannot write
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WP format in anything but WP or MsWord, and even RTF renders differently
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between Ted, LyX, MsWord, WP and StarOffice. XML is the only viable
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exchange method for structured data, and DocBook DTD is the only mature
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XML system for technical documentation.
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For those who _really_ wish to use WP8/9/2000 (I always thought 10
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came next but no matter) you need _only_ create a macro package which
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highlights/fonts/colours/hides anything resembling SGML markup. It's
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a dead simple pattern match.
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Years ago, I would give MsWord-bound authors and editors a GPL macro
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package that re-wrote all the LaTeX tags so they could see their silly
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font/colour changes; they could load my LaTeX source files directly,
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run the macro, and get gloriously mislead. Of course, *interpreting*
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the tags totally removes all advantages of using DocBook (ie it hides
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all element attributes) but this would do just as you wish and give
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you a quasi-rendering of a pseudo page, more than enough to mislead
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you about the final presentation of your work ;)
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Besides, I have to agree with posting who wanted syntax-highlighting
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of DocBook tags --- _that_ person grasps what we're talking about far
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more than those who want pseudo-page rendering with an edit cursor in
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it. Syntax highlighting/hiding is the second most useful aspect of
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Emacs psgml-mode (the first is telling me which tags are valid so I
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don't need to remember 200 tags and I can't write bad DocBook code)
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I expect _any_ programmer's editor which supports syntax highlighting
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can be extended to support DocBook.
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WP/MsWord and their ilk are so proud of their VBASIC-based macro
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languages, for a real fan, such a macro package should be no more than
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a few minutes work; GUI DocBook fans will absolutely freak out if I
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suggest they program this in an ancient and obsolete, powerless tongue
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like eLISP rather than ultra 21st-century totally modern and advanced
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state of the art Visual BASIC, so I won't even mention how all those
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behaviours cited for WP can be added seemlessly to your EMACS, or say
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anything at all about macro debugging.
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Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@linux.ca>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723
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TCI - Business Innovations through Open Source : <A HREF="http://www.teledyn.com">http://www.teledyn.com</A>
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<li><strong><a name="02148" href="msg02148.html">RE: todo (was: RE: Questions about future)</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Gregory Leblanc <GLeblanc@cu-portland.edu></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="02151" href="msg02151.html">Re: Editor flame war</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@canada.com></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="02158" href="msg02158.html">Re: Editor flame war</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Joshua Drake <poet@linuxports.com></li></ul></li>
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