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<h1>Re: A restrictive(?) LDP License</h1>
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<li><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org">ldp-discuss@lists.linuxdoc.org</A></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: A restrictive(?) LDP License</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Terry Dawson <<A HREF="mailto:terry@albert.animats.net">terry@albert.animats.net</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:45:50 +1000</li>
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<li><em>In-reply-to</em>: <<a href="msg00380.html">199910040554.AA26971@lafn.org</a>>; from David Lawyer on Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:54:50PM -0700</li>
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On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 10:54:50PM -0700, David Lawyer wrote:
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> Well, here's what the existing Manifesto (without any revision) says
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> about this:
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> LDP documents must be freely redistributable without fees paid to the
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> authors. It is not required that the text be modifiable, but it is
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> encouraged.
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> This means that all LDP docs may be freely distributed in any medium
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> (including printed form). It means that anyone may make copies and
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> then give them away or sell them (and the author can't require any fee
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> to be paid to him for this). However, while the author might have been
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> paid for writing the document, once it's in the hands of the LDP (on
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> our websites) anyone is free to copy it. Thus if someone presents a
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> doc to the LDP and the license does not allow free copying and
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> distribution (copying is implied by "freely redistributable") then the
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> LDP rejects it. This rule in force right now and has been for some
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> time.
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David,
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I think you're reading a lot into that single sentence that isn't actually
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said.
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For a start it is contradicted by the second paragraph of the 'Overview'
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section which talks about the LDP docs being 'freely available' in a similar
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fashion to the GNU GPL which specifically allows modification and derivative
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works not just encourages them. The freedom is more than freedom to
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redistribute.
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Secondly it talks about 'documents' but does not define the term. I think a
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straw poll on the definition of document would reveal singificant numbers
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of varying views.
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Thirdly, I believe that the LDP license conditions *must* allow modification
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of the content. This shouldn't be a negotiable condition. Again, it's
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extremely difficult to edit/correct/publish a document that doesn't allow
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you to modify the text.
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Lastly, I think we need to be clear that transformations of documents into
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other media/formats/etc. is also allowed. I don't think the single sentence
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catch all allows that.
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regards
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Terry
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