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<h1>My thoughts on the Manifesto revision</h1>
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<li><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:bf347@lafn.org">bf347@lafn.org</A> (David Lawyer)</li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:36:31 -0700</li>
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Here are my thoughts on the process of revising the manifesto. I
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think that there is no urgency and that there must be sufficient time
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for nearly everyone to be able to think things over and participate.
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I don't think there should be any time limits. We hopefully may reach
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a reasoned consensus where no vote will be required. Everyone (who is
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part of LDP and participating) will hopefully support the final
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results or at least have no strong objections.
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The last revision of the manifesto was not done by a group, but by one
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person. I guess most of us (me included) never bothered to carefully
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read it over. This time, I hope things will be different. I suggest
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that the revision be done in stages, with the last stage being the
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most controversial one about what licenses the LDP will accept. I've
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submitted my proposed changes re the first "overview" section. Terry
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posted a suggestion which I've (sort of) accepted (by deleting the
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last sentence). Did everyone get a copy of the "overview" section
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that I emailed to this list? For some reason I didn't get it in my
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email like I should have.
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The fact that our old license (LDP License) disappeared from our site
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really bothers me. I started following the mailing list about the
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time v2.0 came out and I don't ever recall any notice that it was
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dropped. It's nice to have a license that one can just incorporate by
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reference. But if the license page that people have referenced
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disappear, then such documents either have no license or the wrong
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license. In our case, the "wrong license" was a license used for
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"Linux Installation and Getting Started". Some sections of that wrong
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license specifically applied only to the ... Getting Started doc.
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It's actually nothing more than a slightly modified version of the
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"boilerplate" license that is in the Manifesto. Thanks to Terry
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Dawson and David Wheeler for first pointing out that this "wrong
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license" at /LDP/COPYRIGHT.html was flawed.
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The present manifesto contains a "boilerplate" license which is in my
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opinion not one we should be suggesting since it prohibits
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modifications. I propose that as a first step we should modify it (or
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possibly just delete it) and for the time being keep the simple
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criteria as to whether or not we will accept a doc as LDP:
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LDP documents must be freely redistributable without fees paid to the
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authors. It is not required that the text be modifiable, but it is
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encouraged.
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Note that the manifesto is presently inconsistent since in one breath
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it encourages that modifications be allowed and then in the next
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presents a recommended license that prohibits modifications.
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After we complete the first stage of revision of the manifesto, I
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think we should publish that manifesto (post it our site) and then
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start on the difficult 2nd phase of deciding what licenses will be
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accepted for LDP docs. I've got some proposals on this but I haven't
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put them into writing yet. I would rather suggest that we now work on
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the immediate problem of making the manifesto consistent and getting
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the old LDP License (LDPL) back at its url (LDP/COPYRIGHT.html). Is
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it possible to restore this from backups? The backup might just turn
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out to be the v2.0 that I posted. Once this is done we can do more
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work re the license issues.
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What do you think?
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David Lawyer
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