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<li><em>To</em>: Gary Lawrence Murphy <<A HREF="mailto:garym@canada.com">garym@canada.com</A>></li>
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<li><em>Subject</em>: Re: [off topic] Re: Licensing issues</li>
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<li><em>From</em>: Terry Dawson <<A HREF="mailto:terry@albert.animats.net">terry@albert.animats.net</A>></li>
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<li><em>Date</em>: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:52:38 +1000</li>
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<li><em>In-reply-to</em>: <<a href="msg00179.html">m3r9jsfghb.fsf@maya.dyndns.org</a>>; from Gary Lawrence Murphy on Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 11:10:08AM -0400</li>
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On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 11:10:08AM -0400, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
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> Not quite. It was a move to less freedom to accomodate exclusivity.
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It was a move to more freedom, the only change was that it allowed a use
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that wasn't allowed before. I don't see how any reasonable description of
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freedom, or more or less suggests that is a restriction of freedom.
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> then-GPL'd libc in their own non-free projects. It is less freedom
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> because the GPL was intended to make all derived works also bend to
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> the GPL (which is another case where the GPL will not work for LDP
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> docs) and had to give up this "freedom requirement" to accomodate
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> commercial acceptance.
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The GPL will and does work for documents in exactly the same way. If you
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want to take portions of any of my documents and combine them with portions
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of other documents the other documents have to have licenses that are
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GPL compatible. I'll agree there is some murkiness when it comes to defining
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what constitutes a 'linkage' of documents, but I don't believe it's any more
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complicated an issue than with software.
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> But only the restriction on book-publishing, while opening up the free
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> distribution of all material for all other avenues.
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They're already open. There is no gain there.
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> Someone alluded to a publisher who is donating their stuff into the
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> LDP without restrictions. I'm curious because the only publishers I
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> know who go anywhere near that are ORA and Coriolis, and the former
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> has not donated any complete documents (that I know of), and the
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> latter is only donating bare essentials, keeping the good stuff for
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> their 'annotations'.
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The donating whole works thing is a whole different subject. If a publisher,
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as copyright holder of a work, wants to provide their work to the LDP with
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a license that allows free online publishing but restricted paper publishing
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then that is entirely their perogative. I would welcome that, but I would
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oppose any move to attempt to make any other LDP documents conform to that
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style of license.
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When it comes down to it, the copyright holder can do as they please with
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their document.
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The LDP has to make a decision as to what constitutes an acceptable document
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for inclusion within its charter.
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I think all you're really trying to say is that you believe the LDP should
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leave enough flexibility in its minimum licensing standards to accomodate
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the model you describe.
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Let me ask you a question. It's fairly obvious what the advantages are to the
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publisher in having a document branded an official LDP work and having
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exclusive publishing rights, but what's in it for the LDP or the greater
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Linux community to have a document branded an official LDP document but with
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restrictions placed on its publishing in physical form?
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The ability to read the document online but not to be able to print it?
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It seems like a fairly one-sided arrangement to me.
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regards
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Terry
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<li><strong><a name="00167" href="msg00167.html">Re: [off topic] Re: Licensing issues</a></strong>
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<li><strong><a name="00170" href="msg00170.html">Re: [off topic] Re: Licensing issues</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@canada.com></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="00174" href="msg00174.html">Re: [off topic] Re: Licensing issues</a></strong>
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<ul><li><em>From:</em> Terry Dawson <terry@albert.animats.net></li></ul></li>
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<li><strong><a name="00179" href="msg00179.html">Re: [off topic] Re: Licensing issues</a></strong>
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