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<FONT COLOR="navy">Article Idea</FONT></H3>
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:22:12 -0700
<BR>Dalton Arts (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=dalton@dalton-arts.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%231">dalton from dalton-arts.com</a>)
<P>
Dear Answer Gang,
</P>
<P>
After 20 years with Microsoft, I see the revolution brewing on the
horizon (at least I think I do). Assuming the role of Nortradamous,
the movement promoted, sponsored, and pushed by Microsoft to institute
subscription based software has prompted a revolution in the future.
Being one of those people who has been making a living off of the
computer industry for many years, becoming bilingual feels like I
landed on Alpha Centauri &lt;grin&gt; Of course, I expected that jumping
into the underlying mechanics of Linux would bring on lots of anxiety
and frustrations. As the result, the thought that if I'm experiencing
some difficult times, my customers would go out of their minds.
</P>
<P>
In the past when major transitions came about (i.e.., DOS &amp; Windows
3.1 to Win 95), major publications produced issues with brief task
oriented tips. I personally found these to be excellent and it got me
up to speed quickly. I'm aware of the "How To's" but I would hardly
classify them as "Tips." I believe the time is right to begin a
section devoted to "Windows Defectors." The section should
specifically address the typical daily activities of the Windows user
and how to configure Linux to operate like Windows. If you would like,
I have references to many of the Windows Tips that have been published
since Win 95 hit the street as well as copies of the articles and
issues in which they were published.
</P>
<P>
I believe that within the next two to three years, you will be
inundated with so many defectors that they will become a power
influence on your perspective. I am also aware that the traditional
view of the Linux community would prefer to maintain as much distance
as possible between themselves and Windoze, but take heart, there's a
silver lining to that cloud. If I squint real hard, that lining may be
platinum ... hard to tell from here.
</P>
<P>
It's pretty obvious that some in the Linux community already recognize
the signs of this brewing revolution and have made great strides in
Gnome and especially, <A HREF="http://www.kde.org/">KDE</A>. I first began surveying the potential of
Linux back in version 5.2 Redhat, then 7.2, and now 9.x. The Linux
community certainly has been busy and come a long way (Redmond must be
having fits). I look forward to the day when Adobe PhotoShop is
available for Linux. I suspect that would be like winning a Grammy or
Oscar.
</P>
<P>
The kinds of things to cover would be how to get the dynamic mounting
of all drives to function like they do in Windows. Automatic
unmounting when media is removed and remounted when media is inserted.
</P>
<P>
Later,
Dalton Seymour
</P>
<HR width="10%" align="center">
<blockquote><font color="#000066">The staff here at <EM>LG</EM> had a mixed reaction...
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">I left the message intact above for reading convenience, though our conversation
about it is below is in TAG style.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">But what we want to know
from you, dear readers, is whether you would like to see a column
specifically for issues dealing with Windows analogies, or if you'd
prefer to see them scattered into Two Cent Tips or The Answer Gang or
as inidividual articles where most applicable. Should this fellow spin
up his own great little site and have y'all who live in both worlds join
the party? Tell us :D
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
...and frustrations. As the result, the thought that if I'm experiencing
some difficult times, my customers would go out of their minds.
</STRONG></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
[Thomas Adam]
Hmmm, that is only because they have become too dependant on using one
product, Microsoft.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">I've seen people who only play in one desktop environment get lost in
others without it being that particular beastie; the problem is
singlemindedness, not who it comes from.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
...devoted to "Windows Defectors" ... If you like, I have references
to many of the Windows Tips that have been published...
</STRONG></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
[Thomas Adam]
Trying to do what you are suggesting, boiling down
information into "tips", is not an easy thing to do.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
%%%%%
And thanks ever so much to you among the readers who send us boiled down
Two Cent Tips!
%%%%%%
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">No, but it could be a fun and worthwhile thing to try. Some of the tips
found in MSwin's "tips" in the registry aren't all that short.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
[Thomas Adam]
Windows has the advantage in that tips work, soley because there is only
one "layer" to Windows -- only one GUI. Because Linux has many different
"layers" in that sense, often trying to diagnose a problem and thus
producing a tip, often requires intimate knowledge of the user's system
and the underlying Hardware, etc.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">I have to disagree. For one thing - I worked for Norton years ago, and
even win3.1 had other managers available - HP had one, we had NDW,
Compaqs shipped with this weird tabbed thing, and so on. There were a
couple of shareware apps to hack what we X using folk would call the
basic widget set, scrollbars, borders and so on.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">For the modern era Windows you might look into LiteStep, or into KDE for
Windows. (I'm not <EM>sure</EM> K for MSwin replaces the manager, but since
the tech exists to do that I hope they do.) And some mini explorer I
saw mentioned on a shareware site, whose name I forgot.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">While it's true that a problem often has layers, a set of first things
to try can still be good too. And, as I spent so many years in MSwin
based tech support teaching others, Windows has those layers to dig
through, too. The analogous tip may not end up resembling the first
one much - but the analogous problem it's solving may be more similar
than you think.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">We do have a "unifying" interface: the command line.
The CLI, on the other hand, provides no hints to the uninitiated
<EM>and</EM> is The Source Of All Goodness, where the real work of tweaking the
system gets done...
-- Ben</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
...the Linux community would prefer to maintain as much distance
as possible between themselves and Windoze, but take heart, there's a
silver lining to that cloud. If I squint real hard, that lining may be
platinum.
</STRONG></P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">You're restricting yourself to metals there. It'll be cotton candy and
gemstones, and other things, because different people will take the
fluffy silver lined cloud as a starting point and head in different
directions from there. The goth kids who like darkness will figure out
some way to improve the storminess without raining on everyone else's
parade. And so on.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">Well, we've had this kind of discussion (or at least fairly similar to
it) here before, and it's not an uncommon topic. It usually comes from
the folks who are new to the Linux community, and unaware of how it (the
community/system/flow of information/etc.) works. Believe me, none of us
have anything against educating ex-Wind0ws users about Linux... but we
can't do it by using the Micr0s0ft model. Nor - with very few exceptions
that a) make good sense, b) can transfer to _our_ model, and c) are Free
(and usually free as well) - would we want to.
}}}}
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">
</STRONG></P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">People who don't want to tweak their thoughts to the do-it-yourselfer
model will wait until they like the Linux boxen they see on the shelf in
WalMart.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">The models aren't directly allergic to each other, they just kind of
interlace and don't understand each other.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
[Thomas Adam]
Indeed, Ben. Many people who I talk to about making "the switch" are often
put off by the black-and-white terminal screen. They cannot seem to
realise that despite this, there are increasing GUI's out there that offer
the functionality that Windows user's crave: control from the GUI.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">There are. But the fact that they at present work on underlying text
files, means when the GUIs break down - either don't work, or prevent
someone from getting at the unusual control combination the GUI-tool's
author didn't think of - then they can be dealt with "under the hood".
Short of hand hacking registry entries there's no close equivalent in
Windows.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">Mind you, there is at least one good idea in what you say - in fact, I
was already thinking about doing something like this on my own, although
the details are different. I think that a "Basic Linux tips" site would
be a useful thing... but I would also say that it should definitely be a
separate entity from the Linux Gazette. The main reason is that it would
be a toe-in-the-water type of resource - for people who had never used
Linux before - while the LG readership, at least the folks who contact
us on a regular basis (and, as always, in my estimate) are beyond that
point. In fact, where I see LG positioned is - to draw a parallel - at
the point to which I try to get my students in the various intro
programming classes I teach: enough knowledge to know what questions to
ask. That is a key turning point in the knowledge curve, the "knee" at
which that curve breaks over and starts accelerating. With Linux, that
point is not too far away from the origin; however, it is not <EM>at</EM> the
origin, which is the point you're talking about.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">Personally, I believe that Knoppix &lt;<A HREF="http://knoppix.org/&gt"
>http://knoppix.org/&gt</A>; is just about
the best intro to Linux that a new "defector" can have. With even a
little bit of prior computer experience, the average Joe (or Joette
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
can be surfing, sending e-mail, and using a word processor just a couple
of minutes after firing it up. I believe that it's much better to get
someone _doing_ and then nailing down the specifics than trying to teach
the technical detail without any referent (my brain works OK in both of
those scenarios, but in my experience as a teacher I find that most
folks do far better with the former approach.)
-- Ben</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
...much better to get someone <EM>doing</EM> and then nailing down the
specifics...
</STRONG></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Yep -- I'll second that!
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">"Joelle" let's say
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Heh. I just ran yet another internet lounge, mostly running Knoppix,
and I can tell that most of the "I'm lost" kind of questions were not as
much about "this isn't windows!" as "uh, where's a web browser?" or
where was the chat thingy.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
I look forward to the day when Adobe PhotoShop is
available for Linux. I suspect that would be like winning a Grammy or
Oscar.
</STRONG></P>
<blockquote><font color="#1F1F1F">&lt;Smile&gt; I suggest you take a good look at The GIMP (Gnu Image
Manipulation Program) and the "Grokking the Gimp" book available free on
the net and as a Linux package ("grokking-the-gimp" under Debian.)
Photoshop can't even compete, although they've made some nice
improvements in the recent years. As an aside, I've been using The GIMP
for several years, recently got into the above manual, and have been
shocked, re-shocked, and triple-shocked by how much flexibility, how
huge a variety of tools, and how much RAW POWER lies hidden behind that
"simple" little interface (and that I've just passed by, unknowingly,
all these years.) I wouldn't go back to using Photoshop for anything
less than large amounts of money, and would still use the GIMP for my
own graphical editing.
-- Ben</font></blockquote>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
IIRC, Michael Hammel, who used to write "The Graphics Muse" is extensively
helping the promotion of GIMP. He writes some columns in a local Linux
magazine here in England that I saw recently.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Yeah, well, if you bump into him tell him I'm pretty fond of it
nowadays.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Photoshop has all these cool extra filter thingies you can buy in the
store. I'm not sure that Kai Power Tools is the only package. Its
strengths are rather different from the GIMP but I wouldn't say "can't
compete". GIMP began aiming in Photoshop's direction, but the people
who really use it took it to other places. So if Kai starts selling
Kai's Power GIMP Fu, then we'll be winning the Oscar.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">See also a Two Cent Tip about CMYK for the GIMP in this issue, thx Ben :D
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">external booting</FONT></H3>
Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:50:21 EDT
<BR>Susielm39 (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=Susielm39@aol.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%232">Susielm39 from aol.com</a>)
<P>
hi
i am in terested in bying an external harddisk and was wondering if i could
install linux on that and windows xp on my internal one then dule boot as
windose xp as default
Thanks!
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">We get dual boot questions all the time, of different sorts. Would
someone out there, who is a real experimenter in dual or multiple
booting, write us a nice juicy article using a bunch of the tips and
techniques that are obviously out there? I mean, sure, we can keep
pointing folks to the howto's and the TAG Knowledgebase until we turn
into signposts. But having a real, got my grubby hands on it example
to walk through, perhaps including why you're such an experimenter,
would... <EM>make linux a little more fun</EM> !
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">sendmail ignores MX record</FONT></H3>
Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:56:09 +0200
<BR>julius.blank (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=julius.blank@muenchen-ist-toll.de&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%233">julius.blank from muenchen-ist-toll.de</a>)
<P>
Hi,
</P>
<P>
i have sendmail v 8.8.7 running on a RedHat 7.2 box. A few days ago I
downgraded sendmail as I have several other boxes running on that version (by
the way, they work perfectly).
</P>
<P>
Now, when I try to send mails to anywhere else but local accounts, the only way
I can do this is via "sendmail -v <A HREF="mailto:User@Domain"
>User@Domain</A>". If I use mail or any other mail-
program or even "sendmail user@domain", sendmail does not deliver the mail but
prints the following message into <TT>/var/log/maillog:</TT>
</P>
<blockquote><pre>"Jul 15 16:53:00 redhat-box sendmail[19121]: QAA19121: from=root, size=37,
class=0, pri=30037, nrcpts=1, msgid=&lt;20030715145 3.QAA19121@redhat-
box.mydomain&gt;, relay=root@localhost
Jul 15 16:53:00 redhat-box sendmail[19123]: QAA19121: to=User@Domain,
ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
relay=Domain., stat=Deferred: Name server: Domain.: host name lookup failure".
</pre></blockquote>
<P>
Instead of using the correct relay it uses the domain I want to send my mail to
as a relay.
</P>
<P>
The weird thing is that as well "sendmail -v" as "sendmail -bt" with <TT>/mx</TT>
entered resolve the MX record correctly.
</P>
<P>
Another weird thing is that a DNS-query is also done by my redhat-box when I
try to use
"sendmail <A HREF="mailto:User@Domain"
>User@Domain</A>". It seems that in this case sendmail retrieves the same
info from the DNS but stops processing it correctly somewhere between my
attempt and the actual delivery.
</P>
<P>
After several days of debugging and searching forums I don't have any clue what
sendmail wants to tell me here. I would be really grateful (and impressed) if
anyone can help me with this.
</P>
<P>
Thanks in advance.
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">And.... you're the next contestant on "Stump The Answer Gang"
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle"> Just
kidding. Hey folks, if any of you out there know what he should look
into next, let us know (and don't forget to cc him too). Or if you can
write up a good fun article about Troubleshooting Sendmail For The Dazed And
Bemused - that'd be great. We know, there's a lot of books about
sendmail, but that's why we're looking for something a little smaller.
Remember it should be <EM>fun</EM> and take a look at our article submission guidelines.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">Perl/Tk GUI Builder</FONT></H3>
Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:19:25 -0400
<BR>Faber Fedor (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=faber@linuxnj.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%234">faber from linuxnj.com</a>)
<P>
Hey Gang,
</P>
<P>
Does anyone know of a Perl/Tk GUI builder? The only things I've found
on Google are specperl and Guido, neither of which are supported any
longer. Specperl is okay, but I've got to make so many changes to the
generated code that it would be a lot of work if I needed to make
changes to the GUI (and I do!).
</P>
<P>
Even a commercial app would be fine (from what I've seen, most of
ActiveState's stuff doesn't run under Linux).
</P>
<P>
Do Perl/Tk people really build the interfaces by hand still? That can
get pretty tedious...
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Ok readers, now's your chance. Show us where the cool toys are, or put
together an article about your TK hacking plans in perl that shows how
you're having some fun with it. Either that, or maybe someone out there
can rescue these benighted apps
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">How to run chat with several phone numbers .</FONT></H3>
Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:35:51 -0700
<BR>Coelho, Joao (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=Joao.Coelho@fire.ca.gov&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%235">Joao.Coelho from fire.ca.gov</a>)
<P>
I need to create a chat file that would run with several phone numbers,
if phonenum1 is busy then go to phonenum2, and so on. I also would like
to add the phone numbers dynamically because sometimes we need to dial
out with long distance and need to add either the outside line number 9.
Since these requirements vary, is there a way to use variables that can
be passed to the chat script ? Thanks.
</P>
<P>
Joao Coelho
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">We're looking for a noble reader who <EM>really</EM> knows how to make
computers chat. For those who haven't caught on, a chat script is used
to tell the pppd setup how to complete the connection. Usually this is
from a small system to their ISP, but just plain peering can be done
too.
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">I think if it were me I'd use wvdial as a front end...
</font></blockquote>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">PPP experts, drop us a note if you can help out here.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">BiDi Problems in WINE + SMARTDRAW</FONT></H3>
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:49:30 -0300
<BR>Daniel Carneiro do Nascimento (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=dcn@microlink.com.br&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%236">dcn from microlink.com.br</a>)
<P><CODE>
#sorry about my english... i'ved learned that by myself.. so ..
<BR># U can make some modifications &lt; of course.. it's gpl..&gt; in my english
<BR>mistakes
</CODE></P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">So I did, just a little, though usually we leave questions alone so people
have a sense of how the querent meant things
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P>
Hiya guys..
</P>
<P>
I have a problem ( d' aah)
</P>
<P>
I've tried to use SmartDraw under wine.. and then.. after I configure
everything.. It works! At least, I think that, when I see SmarrtDraw
starting.. showing the initial WELCOME.. etc.. but.. when he tries to
show me the initial screen &lt; to chose the objects of my diagram&gt;
BUMMER! My wine DIES.
</P>
<P>
my log is so big.. and every thing happens about BiDi...
</P>
<blockquote><pre>#] warn:font:GetCharacterPlacementW The BiDi algorythm doesn't conform
to Windows'
</pre></blockquote>
<P>
And then.. BiDi throws a lot of junk &lt; i suppose&gt; in my memory causing
some HEAPS Faults:.
</P>
<blockquote><pre>#] warn:heap:HEAP_IsRealArena Heap 0x40db0000: block 0x408acf is not
inside heap
</pre></blockquote>
<P>
there's not an upgrade for BiDi available.. and.. since November 22..
BiDi has been going crazy... with some programs that request some kind of..
font.. i don't know...
</P>
<P>
The HEAP Faults problem.. I solved myself making a bigger "X:/temp"
and includding a new path for junk.. but.. <A HREF="http://www.winehq.com/">WINE</A> couldn't pass through
BiDi, when it get a crash.. cause the BiDi NEVER stops to send some..
THING. &lt; i don't know what either.&gt; to the memory.. that fills up..
whatever is your <TT>/temp</TT> size! &lt; mine is 2 G!&gt;
</P>
<P>
I just don't know what to do!
I'm really really lost.. and.. I need to make wine work... it's not
for the program itself.. it's for the HONOR! AHUuhauahh
</P>
<P>
DO you guys know ANYTHING about that Suddenly Crashing?!? Or..
incompatibility ? Or whatever you call it... ...
</P>
<P>
Tnkx so much for reading my crappy email...
</P>
<P>
PS:. .. HEEEEEELP!
</P>
<P>
Daniel Carneiro do Nascimento
</P>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">Squid and FTP</FONT></H3>
Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:26:16 +0300
<BR>Nickos Yoldassis (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=niyo@teipat.gr&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%237">niyo from teipat.gr</a>)
<P><STRONG><FONT COLOR="#000066"><EM>
Hi there,
</EM></FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT COLOR="#000066"><EM>
I use squid as a proxy server (default configuration) and it seems that i
can't connect to ftp sites through it.
Do I have to do anything?
</EM></FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT COLOR="#000066"><EM>
Nickos, Greece
</EM></FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
It appears that this is an FAQ in the land of Squid, number 12.17 --
"Can I make my regular FTP clients use a Squid cache?"
</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
Nope, its not possible. Squid only accepts HTTP requests. It speaks
FTP on the server-side, but not on the client-side.
</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
The very cool wget will download FTP URLs via Squid (and probably any
other proxy cache).
</STRONG></P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">However, it would be fun to have an article about somebody using Squid
and/or other site caching software in powerful ways to make their site's
view of the web more fun. There are a bunch of add-ons at Freshmeat for
it, so I'm sure someone out there has a great example for us to follow.
Don't forget to read our author submission guidelines.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">create new lilo boot loader - on 2nd drive</FONT></H3>
Fri, 13 Jun 2003 02:42:27 +0000
<BR>Geraldine Koh (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=geradin07@hotmail.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%238">geradin07 from hotmail.com</a>)
<P>
Hi people, I have a problem......
</P>
<P>
I'm actually trying to mirror the hard disks using RAID 1 in <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/">Red Hat</A> 9.It
can work perfectly but the bug is that i can only boot up the first hard
disk, i suppose lilo is stored as th MBR in it. The second hard disk during
booting up, shows LI and i boot it using a bootup diskette instead. I'm
wondering how to implement lilo in the second HDD in such a way that it auto
boots up just like the 1st HDD.Is it possible?
</P>
<P>
Is it true that only 1 MBR could be used will it work on 2 MBR in 2
respective hard disks?
</P>
<P>
I visited the Boot+Raid+Root+ Lilo How to documentation:
&amp; i tried this method to boot up second HDD..but there's error
</P>
<P>
it is known as a raid LILO config file pair that I implemented:
</P>
<p align="center">See attached <tt><a href="misc/wanted/geraldine.lilo.conf.hda.txt">geraldine.lilo.conf.hda.txt</a></tt></p>
<P>
I created this 2 lilo configuration file but not too sure whether is eing
read anot because i still have a current default lilo file <TT>/etc/lilo.conf</TT>
</P>
<p align="center">See attached <tt><a href="misc/wanted/geraldine.default.etc-lilo.conf.txt">geraldine.default.etc-lilo.conf.txt</a></tt></p>
<P>
Bacially that's about all...I hope your gang can resolve my roblem.Sorry if
i bored you to sleep with such a long email.
Hope to hear from ya soon...
</P>
<P>
Cheers,
Geraldine
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<FONT COLOR="navy">Undelivered chroot mail - echo 'x' ? </FONT></H3>
Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:51:15 -0700
<BR>Jonathan Hirshon (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=jh@horizonpr.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20help%20wanted%20%239">jh from horizonpr.com</a>)
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Note, the hosted site's name and troubled user account have been anonymized.
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P>
Ick - it seems her email is still not working!
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/unsmily.gif" ALT=":("
height="24" width="20" align="middle"> Everyone
else's seems to be working fine, but since she heads up the office we
shoulfd try and figure out what the heck is wrong with hers before she
goes ballistic!
</P>
<P>
Got any ideas?
</P>
<P>
cheers, JH
</P>
<P>
Here's the error:
</P>
<blockquote><pre>Reporting-MTA: dns; example.org
Arrival-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; mary@example.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: "/bin/echo 'x' &gt;
/var/chroot/home/mary". Command output: sh:
/var/chroot/home/mary: No such file or directory
</pre></blockquote>
<P><STRONG>
Well, a real stumper is, I've sent her mail and she has actually been
getting it, as shown by her copies of my messages in the thread. So
whatever this is is only happening under limited circumstances.
</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
Even weirder, the host space for "example.org" should NOT be
mentioning <TT>/var/chroot</TT> - that's a referent for the next level up.
So I will check <TT>/etc/passwd</TT> and see if her homedir is wrong. But I
still cannot figure out why it would mention <TT>/bin/echo.</TT> I don't use it
to say 'x' - I use to to say real messages I want logged, even during
debug modes. So Perhaps something automatic did it, but then, I don't
know what.
</STRONG></P>
<P>
It also happened when soneone from Intel sent her an email - he
forwarded me the same bounce.
</P>
<P>
Let me know if we can get this fixed ASAP - thanks, JH
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">We did fix this, but, the method we used was to simply create a new
account for her. So, if anyone has any good theory as to what really
happened...
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
<P>
Well, she doesn't have any procmail that everyone else doesn't have
(it just keeps a backup mailbox). There's not mention of <TT>/bin/echo</TT>
anywhere in the postfix setup of either the top or chroot'd levels.
And her homedir references are correct, plus, other people have the
same setup she does in that regard too. There isn't even a letter x
anywhere in their aliases file, since none of the accounts or alias
names contains one. <TT>/var/chroot/home/mary</TT> does indeed exist,
if you look at things from the top level, but the postfix running in
the lower level has no good reason to try to refer to that, since
the chroot'd <TT>/etc/passwd</TT> mentions <TT>/home/mary.</TT>
</P>
<P>
I tried hitting up the net for that form of error message, but nothing
useful came up. I'm going to submit this to The Answer Gang and see
if any of them has a good idea what to look at next.
</P>
<blockquote><font color="#000066">As it turns out, the original subject looked like a mailer daemon notice
and everyone ignored it. Sorry about that. But the stumper remains.
An additional bit not mentioned here, is that the user is not a shell
user, she only uses POP and SMTP from this server. Thanks in advance,
folks!
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:07:05 -0700
<BR>The Answer Gang's Editor Gal (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20gazette%20matters%20%231">tag from starshine.org</a>)
<P><STRONG>
That reminds me ...
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":-)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
Can my email displayed in the Author page be changed
to <A HREF="mailto:ashwin@despammed.com"
>ashwin@despammed.com</A> Since the time it was put on that page, that email
is almost lost in huge amount of spam (it is not listed anywhere else).
</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>
Also, my experience with despammed.com has been good, I use the email all
over my homepage and other webpages and their cleaning is very good, hardly
one or two spam mails in a month get through.
</STRONG></P>
<P>
While it's Ben's task to try and keep the bios up-to-date in this fashion...
</P>
<P>
Gang members may be pleased to know that those of you whom I recognize
as regular contributors get your real addresses snipped and replaced
with a rather generic "The Answer Gang" - and our regular staffers, such
as Thomas, get their monikers. I've been doing it for a while, so
several of you are in my little scripts as automatically fixed up that
way.
</P>
<P>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">trimmed addresses from Gang tips</FONT></H3>
Wed, 24 July 2003 19:22:13 -0700
<BR>The Answer Gang's Editor Gal (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2093%5D%20gazette%20matters%20%232">tag from starshine.org</a>)
<P>
It's been brought to my attention that some people feel that the
<EM>Gazette</EM> is a bit of a closed system and hard for people to submit
material to.
</P>
<P>
This magazine is a labor of love - we are all volunteers here, every
single one of us. The title bar on TAG used to say it was by a handful
of members of the Gang.... and you!
</P>
<P>
It's still true, but it's not limited to that column.
</P>
<P>
We have a batch of people at the core of it, but anyone has the power here
to make a difference. If you have suggestions for improving the look
of <EM>Linux Gazette</EM> - things you liked or hated about older styles - do
let us know. We may not accept every suggestion, because we still want
to be usable across low end connections like modems in the wilder areas
of the world, we have PDA users surfing websites now, and we still want
to be search engine friendly. But with those things in mind, we're sure
we can do more.
</P>
<P>
I know it may not look like it in some months, but you don't have to be
a member of The Answer Gang to tell us your best juicy tips. Just send
them to <A HREF="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com"
>linux-questions-only@ssc.com</A> with "Tips" or "2c" anywhere in the
subject, and if your tip seems accurate you'll see your name with two
pennies next month. If your Tip is a bit long, but your explanation is
good, send it anyway. We like those a lot. If it's really long, you
may end up as one of the speakers in the TAG column yourself, or invited
to lengthen your material into an article.
</P>
<P>
We post Wanteds (see above) for two flavors of enouragement; you can
show off your knowledge on a few Answer Gang style questions without
formally joining the Gang ... and people with a broader view can write
some articles on these "stumper" topics.
</P>
<P>
Article ideas need not come from the lost and confused, though. If you
can't write, but you know some cool topic you'd love to see covered,
send in your article idea either to me for the Mailbag directly, or
to the Gang if you'd like to see it discussed and maybe turned into a
good thread. I'd also like to take a moment to thank all the authors
who presently have ideas in the pipeline for us.
</P>
<P>
We do sometimes see articles put together from general discussions
among our answerfolk, though this is less common. Anyone who has a
little room in their mailbox and a desire to help out - or just listen
to the clues float by - is welcome to join The Answer Gang. Visit
<A HREF="http://www.ssc.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-questions-only"
>http://www.ssc.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-questions-only</A> to reach our
mailman interface. This is a few hundred slices of mail every month
though, and sometimes rambles. Don't be afraid to correct people who
are wrong, but try to be friendly. And don't let the dark glasses
and other silliness put you off; it's part of the charm. And yes,
pop in with enough answers and help a few of the regulars not shoot
themselves too badly around the feet - and you, too, will enjoy the
TAG lounge and the marvelous automagically refreshable munchies.
</P>
<P>
We haven't had any formal sponsors for a long while, but you don't have
to be a lone individual to help out. If any companies out there would
like to help sponsor the Gazette by defraying some of the costs that
our host puts into this, please contact <A HREF="mailto:sponsor@ssc.com"
>sponsor@ssc.com</A>. Your reward
will be your logo on the index page, and a round of thanks from LG
readers everywhere.
</P>
<P>
While we're talking about a big helping hand ... let's all think a
round of virtual beer for our unsung heroes who run the mirror sites.
Especially those brave souls in the boonies who only have storage room
for a few issues, or a moderate degree of permanent badnwidth, but keep
a mirror anyway. If you are a mirror site maintainer, and are having
some trouble keeping your mirror up to date, <EM>please</EM> email us about it.
The Gang will be glad to help you settle out any automation bugs that
we can. Our new webmaster (wave Hi, Jeff!) will see that you're able
to connect up. New mirrors are always welcome too.
</P>
<P>
Lastly, we're working on having some more memorable addresses
@linuxgazette.com soon. I realize that it will take a while for folks
to clean up bookmarks, and we'll see a lot of folks referencing older
documents, and besides @ssc.com is shorter to type. Fear not, those
addresses will still work for awhile to come. But alias space is cheap,
and easy to remember addresses will, we hope, make submitting to the
<EM>Linux Gazette</EM> ... a little more fun.
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