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><strong>H/W detection in Debian ?</strong></a>
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><strong>ppp over nullmodem cable - no response to (LCP ConfReq ...)</strong></a>
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><strong>How can we block mails from users using ipchains</strong></a>
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><strong>dual boot problem</strong></a>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">H/W detection in Debian ?</FONT></H3>
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Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:06:15 +0530
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<BR>Joydeep Bakshi (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=joy12@vsnl.net&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%231">joy12 from vsnl.net</a>)
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<LI>kudzu is the DEFAULT H/W detection tool in RH & harddrake in MDK. is there
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anything in debian?
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<LI>I have installed <EM>kudzu</EM> in debian 3.0 , but it is not running as a
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service. it needs to execute the command <EM>kudzu</EM> manually. more over it
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couldn't detect my epson C21SX printer. but under MDK 9.0 kudzu detected the
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printer . any solution please ?
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<FONT COLOR="navy">ppp over nullmodem cable - no response to (LCP ConfReq ...)</FONT></H3>
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Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:45:02 +0100
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<BR>Josef Angermeier jun. (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=josef.angermeier@web.de&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%232">josef.angermeier from web.de</a>)
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hi linux gazette
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first thanks for your great work.
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id like to connect over a serial cable to a windows 2000 ras server. i
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already know that the problem isnt the null modem cable, because i just
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could remote control my second computer while using getty and windows's
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hyperterminal on the other side. (btw i first tried gnu/linux's minicom
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instead of window's hyperterminal but it seemed to me minicom just works
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with a modem a the end of the cable, am i wrong or is there any other
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program out there which i should give a try ?) ok ive already read those
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Serial-* and PPP* howto but i probably missed something. further, i also set
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the same baud rate at the ras server side. so any idea, why i
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dont get any reply to my LCP ConfReq Request ??
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greets
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josef
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<blockquote><pre>melee:/home/josef/tmp# pppd /dev/ttyS0 nodetach
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Serial connection established.
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using channel 1
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Using interface ppp0
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Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
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sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x143c91f8> <pcomp> <accomp>]
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sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x143c91f8> <pcomp> <accomp>]
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sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x143c91f8> <pcomp> <accomp>]
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sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x143c91f8> <pcomp> <accomp>]
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....
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</pre></blockquote>
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my <TT>/etc/ppp/options.ttyS0</TT>
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<blockquote><pre>connect 'chat -v -f /etc/ppp/scripts/winserver.chat'
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19200
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debug
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crtscts
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local
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user josef
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noauth
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<FONT COLOR="navy">How can we block mails from users using ipchains</FONT></H3>
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Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:33:43 -0800
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<BR>Dan Wilder (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=vinod@globaledgesoft.com&cc=dan@ssc.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%233">SSC sysadmin</a>)
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<BR>Question by linux-questions-only@ssc.com, vinod (vinod from globaledgesoft.com)
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HI,
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I would like to know how to block mails from other users on the same
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Thanks
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Perhaps you could be more specific about what you're trying to accomplish.
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For example:
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<LI>I wish to block all mail from a specific user to me
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<LI>I wish to prevent a specific user from sending any mail
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<LI>I wish to allow users to send mail, but not to other users
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on the same system
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<LI>I wish to prevent any mail from being sent on the system
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<LI>??
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</ul></blockQuote>
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<blockquote><font color="#000066">I'll take this one to the readership as a general request for more
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articles about setting up mail systems to do interesting things. In
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fact, some things that aren't really about spam could be a fun read
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<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
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-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<FONT COLOR="navy">dual boot problem</FONT></H3>
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Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:29:33 -0500
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<BR>Faber Fedor (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=Lazybum@sio.midco.net&cc=faber@linuxnj.com&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%234">faber from linuxnj.com</a>)
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<BR>Question by Phil Harold (Lazybum from sio.midco.net)
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I installed Redhat 8.0 on an existing system that has XP pro on it. XP
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is on ide0 and the Redhat is on ide1 XP hard drive is fat file system.
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When it boots it asks go to Redhat or dos<6F> I don<6F>t have dos. How do I
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get back to the windows? What needs to be done to change the boot
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loader. I thought I had set it up so Linux only booted with a floppy<70> I
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guess not
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Thanks for any help.
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Phil Harold
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Go ahead and choose "DOS". That will boot into the other partition
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which is set up (hopefully) to boot XP.
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<blockquote><font color="#000066">Looks normal so far. Hardly worthy of the "help wanted" section here
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at the <EM>Gazette</EM> ... but nope, it's a stumper.
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-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<P><STRONG>
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just before the other symbols it says:
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<P><STRONG><BLOCKQuote>
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root no verify (hd2,0)
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chainloader +1
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</BLOCKQuote></STRONG></P>
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hit the enter key is when the symbols come looks like greek and chinese
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<FONT COLOR="navy">Custom kernel, not so custom modules</FONT></H3>
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Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:25:16 +0100
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<BR>Eduardo (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=edlm@wanadoo.es&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%235">edlm from wanadoo.es</a>)
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<blockquote><font color="#000066">An old question - he had said this relates to
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[[<A HREF="../issue64/tag/16.html"
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>http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue64/tag/16.html</A>][issue 64 #16 in The Answer Gang]] - but still a stumper. We have a lot more readers now;
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maybe one of you knows what happened here?
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-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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Hello all,
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I have exactly the same problem described by Michael Hansen. Modules
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doesn't load after recompile Kernel. I'm also a newbie in Linux, but I
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see (If you are using red hat at least), it creates a directory
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<TT>/lib/modules/2.4.xcustom</TT> (in fact kernel version pass to 2.4.18custom in
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my case), but when you do make modules it copies to directory 2.4.x. If
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you rename directories the problem comes when you try to install a new
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driver that use uname -r command during installation to find modules
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directory (uname -r result is 2.4.xcustom). I don't know how solve
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this problem.
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Best regards
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<FONT COLOR="navy">ipchains vs iptables</FONT></H3>
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Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:39:11 +0100
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<BR>Dean Buhrmann (<a href="mailto:linux-questions-only@ssc.com?cc=d.buhrmann@chello.nl&subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20help%20wanted%20%236">d.buhrmann from chello.nl</a>)
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Dear Answer Gang members,
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I have a linux home network which is connected to the internet through a
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gateway. This computer runs linux with a 2.2.18 kernel. I use IP-chains to
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block some unwanted incoming traffic.
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One of the machines runs mldonkey. This program needs the ports 4161 and 4162.
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I get the following error from server i contact:
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</P>
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<blockquote><pre>ERROR: Your port 4662 is not reachable. You have a LOWID.
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</pre></blockquote>
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This port is open. The solution to this problem seems to be to redirect
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incoming packets from the internet for port 4662 directly to the machine
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where mldonkey runs.
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<P>
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The following iptable should do this:
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<blockquote><pre>iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d $4 --dport 4662 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.100
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</pre></blockquote>
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<blockquote><code><font color="#000033"><br>$4 is the gateway
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<br>192.168.1.100 runs mldonkey
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</font></code></blockquote>
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<P>
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I use a 2.2.18 kernel with ipchains on the gateway. In Howto's and other
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documentation i can't find a way to do this with ipchains. Do you know if
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it's possible and how?
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</P>
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Please your help.
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</P>
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greetings Dean Buhrmann.
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<blockquote><font color="#000066">Articles about trevails, with details are always welcome when you solve
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a strange problem. Of course there are HOWTO's for ipchains and for
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netfilters, but perhaps we could see an article about do something
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complicated enough to illustrate differences that might have you prefer
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one or the other interface.
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-- Heather</font></blockquote>
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<li><A HREF="#mailbag.1"
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<FONT COLOR="navy">Re: your mail</FONT></H3>
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Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:45:17 -0500
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<BR>Ben Okopnik (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20mailbag%20%231">the <em>LG</em> Answer Gang</a>)
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<BR>Question by Larry Leeds (lleeds from cableone.net)
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<P><STRONG>
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I had an IBM 20G hard drive that had a lot of bogus information in the
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master boot record due to formatting it with 2G jumper on and then
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formatting with the jumper off. It wouldn't load an OS, and it locked up
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every time I tried to run fdisk, norton disk doctor couldn't fix it either,
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but your little DOS assembly program
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<A HREF="../issue63/okopnik.html"
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>http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue63/okopnik.html</A> saved my hard drive.
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<P><STRONG>
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Thank you!
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Glad you found it useful, Larry. A number of people have written in with
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comments like yours about that particular article; I find it very
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pleasant that my work has benefitted that many people.
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I appreciate your letting me know.
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<H3><IMG ALIGN=BOTTOM ALT="" SRC="../gx/envelope.gif">
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<FONT COLOR="navy">POS Software in Linux</FONT></H3>
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Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:07:25 -0500
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<BR>Ben Okopnik (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20mailbag%20%232">the <em>LG</em> Answer Gang</a>)
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<BR>Question by Stelian Iancu (stelian.iancu from gmx.net)
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<P><STRONG>
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Hi!
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</STRONG></P>
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<P><STRONG>
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I was reading the December 2002 issue of LG (btw, great magazine! I've
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just re-discovered it, and it's fantastic!) and I saw the PC-MOS thread
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originated by Reilly Burke.
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</STRONG></P>
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<P><STRONG>
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I remembered that I saw something like a prototype for a POS software on
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the net and I went searching for it. The address is
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<A HREF="http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/src/pos"
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>http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/src/pos</A> and the author is no other
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than jwz (Jamie Zawinski).
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</STRONG></P>
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<P><STRONG>
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As fas as I can see, there is only an idea and a "little prototype" (as
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the author describes it), but maybe this prototype can be used for
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further developement by somebody else.
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</STRONG></P>
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<P><STRONG>
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HTH!
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</STRONG></P>
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<P>
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If you need a restaurant-specific POS and don't mind going commercial
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(for a very small fee as compared to other POSes, actually), I have only
|
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good things to say about the ViewTouch POS
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<<A HREF="http://www.viewtouch.com/"
|
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>http://www.viewtouch.com</A>> in
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spite of its closed-source nature. The interface is <EM>very</EM> well
|
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thought-out and beautifully done; the layout, menu, employee, and
|
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ingredient list configuration is a snap. It supports all the popular
|
||
touchscreens, industry-standard narrow printers, and all the standard
|
||
cash drawers. Despite the documentation that insists on "RedHat-only"
|
||
compatibility, I've run it under <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/">Debian</A> from day one (three years or so
|
||
ago), and it works fine.
|
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</P>
|
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<P>
|
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My biggest concern with it, of course, is that it <EM>is</EM> closed-source. I
|
||
would have liked to tweak some minor features for the client I had who
|
||
was interested; as well, I wonder what would happen if the developer
|
||
disappeared off into the ether... but that's the nature of that
|
||
particular beast. It is, however, an interesting and well-executed
|
||
option. Interestingly enough, I spotted a major restaurant near
|
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Baltimore (a Brazilian steakhouse in Columbia, MD) using it about a year
|
||
ago. The employees using it didn't have any negative comments, either.
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</P>
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<P><STRONG>
|
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P.S. Keep up the good work!
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</STRONG></P>
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<P>
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Thanks, Stelian. That's the reality <EM>and</EM> the plan.
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<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
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height="24" width="20" align="middle">
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</P>
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<center>
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<BIG><STRONG><FONT COLOR="maroon">GAZETTE MATTERS</FONT></STRONG></BIG>
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<BR>
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</center><HR>
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<UL>
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<!-- index_text begins -->
|
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<li><A HREF="#gaz.0"
|
||
><strong>Wanted: Proofreaders</strong></a>
|
||
<li><A HREF="#gaz.1"
|
||
><strong>Compilation Problem in Writing Your Own Toy OS (PART II)</strong></a>
|
||
<li><A HREF="#gaz.2"
|
||
><strong>publishing</strong></a>
|
||
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|
||
</UL>
|
||
<!-- .~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~. -->
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||
<P> <A NAME="gaz.0"><HR WIDTH="75%" ALIGN="center"></A> <P>
|
||
<H3><IMG ALIGN=BOTTOM ALT="" SRC="../gx/envelope.gif">
|
||
<FONT COLOR="navy">Wanted: Proofreaders</FONT></H3>
|
||
Thu Jan 30 11:24:03 PST 2003
|
||
<BR>LG Editor Iron (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com">gazette from ssc.com</a>)
|
||
|
||
|
||
<P>
|
||
LG is looking for proofreaders. The main qualifications are a good command of
|
||
English grammar, a native or near-native sense of English word usage, and the
|
||
ability to recognize and clarify phrases that are too academic, not
|
||
understood outside their own country, or unnecessarily difficult for those
|
||
with limited English ability to read.
|
||
|
||
<P> Depending on the number of proofreaders, the workload would be at most
|
||
one article per month, but more likely one article every 2-3 months. Of
|
||
course, you would be able to refuse articles you don't have time to
|
||
proofread, or if you're not interested in the subject.
|
||
|
||
<P> If interested, send <A HREF="mailto:gazette@ssc.com">gazette@ssc.com</A>
|
||
some samples or URLs of stuff you've written or proofread (any topic, any
|
||
length) that demonstrates your wording style.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
<!-- end 0 -->
|
||
<!-- .~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~.~~. -->
|
||
<P> <A NAME="gaz.1"><HR WIDTH="75%" ALIGN="center"></A> <P>
|
||
<H3><IMG ALIGN=BOTTOM ALT="" SRC="../gx/envelope.gif">
|
||
<FONT COLOR="navy">Compilation Problem in Writing Your Own Toy OS (PART II)</FONT></H3>
|
||
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:15:59 -0800 (PST)
|
||
<BR>Mohammad Moghal (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20gazette%20matters%20%231">riazdat from yahoo.com</a>)
|
||
|
||
|
||
<P>
|
||
Dear Sir,
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
"Writing Your Own Toy OS" is a Great Contribution towards knowledge.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
I have tried PART I successfully.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
But, after compiling part II, I booted my system from Drive A. System checked Drive A and was hangged. There was no output of the string.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
Could you please help me out.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
Best Regards
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
M. R. Moghal
|
||
</P>
|
||
|
||
<blockquote><font color="#001F3F">Forwarding to the author, Krishnakumar R.
|
||
</font></blockquote>
|
||
<blockquote><font color="#001F3F">He fixed one of the programs somewhere in the series after it was published,
|
||
but I don't remember exactly where. If you're reading on a mirror, check the
|
||
main site, and see whether that program has been changed.
|
||
<A HREF="../issue79/krishnakumar.html"
|
||
>http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue79/krishnakumar.html</A>
|
||
-- Mike</font></blockquote>
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
||
<P> <A NAME="gaz.2"><HR WIDTH="75%" ALIGN="center"></A> <P>
|
||
<H3><IMG ALIGN=BOTTOM ALT="" SRC="../gx/envelope.gif">
|
||
<FONT COLOR="navy">publishing</FONT></H3>
|
||
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:37:09 -0500
|
||
<BR>Mike Orr (<a href="mailto:gazette@ssc.com?subject=%20Re%3A%20%5BLG%2087%5D%20gazette%20matters%20%232"><em>Linux Gazette</em> Editor</a>)
|
||
<BR>Question by Felix F. (felix from pz4.org)
|
||
|
||
<!-- sig -->
|
||
<!-- sig -->
|
||
|
||
<blockquote><font color="#000066">Readers, please note that this was actually an exchange of mails back
|
||
and forth between Mike and Felix, rather than one message which Mike
|
||
responded to in gory detail. If anyone out there, either in whole or
|
||
in part, takes on the Herculean task of providing paper editions of <EM>LG</EM>
|
||
please let us know - we will very happily spread the word!
|
||
-- Heather</font></blockquote>
|
||
<P><STRONG>
|
||
Have you ever thought of publishing the gazette and require subscriptions? I
|
||
would sure like to get a monthly magazine then browsing the gazette online.
|
||
</STRONG></P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
We've had several requests for a print version of LG. However, the cost of
|
||
producing it would be prohibitive. (Printing, postage, software to track
|
||
subscriptions, customer service staff, etc. And if you want a glossy magazine
|
||
rather than just a xerox copy, there's layout costs, more printer's fees, etc.)
|
||
Commercial magazines like our <I>Linux Journal</I> can do it because most of
|
||
their revenue comes from advertising, but Linux Gazette does not
|
||
accept advertising (except sponsorships).
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
We have repeatedly asked if any readers would be willing to set up their own
|
||
print-and-distribute service for LG, but nobody has offered.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P><STRONG>
|
||
What kind of equipment would be required to print-and-distribute services?
|
||
</STRONG></P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
At minimum, a lazer printer, envelopes, stamps, and a list of subscribers.
|
||
That's how small, do-it-yourself zines work. You'd want some kind of
|
||
cover or binding unless you're just going to send a stack of loose sheets.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
But mailing costs alone will soak you, especially since a single issue of LG
|
||
is something like fifty printed pages. (I've never printed an issue, so that's
|
||
an estimate.) Sending fifty pages via first-class mail within the US is $3-4,
|
||
so that's $48/year. Would you pay $48 for LG? You may be able to get a better
|
||
deal with book rate or presorted rate but you'd have to check with the post
|
||
office. But how will you recoup your cost for toner cartridges, paper, printer
|
||
repair/replacement (since it will wear out sooner), envelopes, and the time to
|
||
write the addresses or attach labels, not to mention the time dealing with
|
||
subscription requests, complaints about "I didn't receive my issue", etc?
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P><STRONG>
|
||
Today many free magazines put ads into the magazine and make money to
|
||
publish the magazine. It would be a good idea to maybe advertise, but
|
||
I'm not sure if LG has a high number of subscribers. I can see where the
|
||
management issue would be a problem (billing, distributing, etc).
|
||
Hopefully one day maybe.
|
||
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
|
||
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
|
||
</STRONG></P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
LG has a huge number of readers all over the world. I don't know the number
|
||
because people who read via mirrors or off-line are uncountable. But there
|
||
are mirrors in fifty countries, and I figure any country with a mirror must
|
||
have a subtantial LG readership. Either that, or it at least has one LG
|
||
fanatic....
|
||
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
|
||
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
You bring up an interesting point. LG itself is not interested in running
|
||
ads, at least not at present. I like to think of LG as an ad-free zone, a
|
||
safe haven from ads. But since LG content is freely redistributable, there's
|
||
nothing prohibiting a print-and-deliver service from inserting ads in their
|
||
version.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
Actually, our author Alan Ward in Andorra said he's seen a Spanish print
|
||
version of LG on the newsstands there. I assume it was the Spanish
|
||
translation of <I>Linux Journal</I>, which may include some LG articles.
|
||
</P>
|
||
<P><STRONG>
|
||
I've seen few sites publishing their works into magazine (including ads)
|
||
and subscribers did not get angry at the ads, because they understood that
|
||
to publish costs money and if the work is quality it's worth subscribing
|
||
for.
|
||
</STRONG></P>
|
||
<P><STRONG>
|
||
HAPPY NEW YEAR and good luck.
|
||
</STRONG></P>
|
||
<P>
|
||
There <EM>are</EM> a few articles in LG that may not be redistributed in a
|
||
commercial print publication (where "commercial" means you're charging any
|
||
amount of money for it). Those articles have a message to that effect at the
|
||
bottom of the article. The ones that come to mind are:
|
||
</P>
|
||
|
||
<ul>
|
||
<LI>Some of Shane Collinge's HelpDex cartoons: he sold the print rights to a
|
||
certain publisher. This affects only a limited number of cartoons. <P>
|
||
|
||
<LI>One or two other articles that have corporate ownership.
|
||
</ul>
|
||
<P>
|
||
In those cases, you will have to contact the author for permission.
|
||
</P>
|
||
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|
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|
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