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>Issue 80 - The Mailbag -> Kylix - observations</H3>
<p><strong>From Translation c 2002 Santy
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<p align="right"><strong>Answered By Faber Fedor, Ben Okopnik, John Karns, Mike Orr, Heather Stern
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Hello!, I suppose that somebody already will have clarified this to you,
but just in case...
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(I am Spanish, and my English is not very good, I hope that it is
sufficient to explain to me well...)
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<blockquote><code><font color="#000033"><br>Kylix
<br>Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:37:51 -0400
<br>Octavio Aguilar (oam from mail.cosett.com.bo)
<br>translated by Mike Orr, except for one part by Heather Stern.
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!ah! Un comentario demonio (daemon )siguifica Dinamic access memory, estoy
equivocado?
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Ah! A daemon commentary means dynamic access memory, or am I mistaken?
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Octavio-- Sorry, I've never used Kylix. I just ran a demo once. I don't understand your
second question. Memory is hardware; a daemon is software. And what's a "daemon
commentary"?
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> [Santy]
Here Octavio asks if daemon (demon is "demonio" in spanish) means "dynamic access
memory" I believe that he thinks that daemon is an acronym -&gt;"D-ynamic A-ccess
EM-memory ON-???) or so, of course this mistaken, it cames from Day Monitor
&iquest;yes?.
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I believe that this clarifies your doubt, I hope...
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>
Intente bajar de internet el mismo paquete pero el resultado para instalarlo es el
mismo error.
(Heather: oboy, my spanish is rustier than Mike's, but I'll try.)
I intend to go under the internet to packets (maybe: download the package ?) but the
result of installing is an error.
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> [Santy]
I intend to download the package from internet but the result of installing is the same
error.
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Bye!
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Santy writes:
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of course this mistaken, it cames from Day Monitor &iquest;yes?.
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> [Faber]
I've heard that daemon stands for Disk And Execution MONitor. Whether
that's true or not is, I suspect, lost in the mists of history.
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> [Ben]
In The Jargon File:
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:daemon: <TT>/day</TT>'mn/ or <TT>/dee</TT>'mn/ <TT>/n./</TT> [from the mythological
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meaning, later rationalized as the acronym `Disk And Execution
MONitor'] A program that is not invoked explicitly, but lies
dormant waiting for some condition(s) to occur.
....
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> [John K.]
According to my first edition copy of "UNIX System Administration
Handbook", Nemeth, Synder &amp; Seebass, pp 403-404,
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"Many people equate the word 'daemon' with the word 'demon' implying some
kind of Satanic connection between UNIX and the underworld. This is an
egregious misunderstanding. 'Daemon' is actually a much older form of
'demon'; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather
serve to help define a person's character or personality.
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> [Mike Orr]
Similar to the Russian word "chyort", which means "earth spirit", but
Christian theology and writers (e.g., Tolstoy) tended to redefine as "devil".
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There's an anecdote about a priest who's conducting a funeral service.
As the casket is about to be buried, an earthquake erupts, pushing the casket
into the earth. "Chyort voz'mi!" ("The devil take it!") mutters the priest and
continues the service, not realizing the literal meaning of that common expression.
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> [John K.]
The ancient
Greeks' concept of a "personal daemon" was similar to the modern concept
of a "guardian angel" -- "eudaemonia" is the state of being helped or
protected by a kindly spirit. As a rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested
with both daemons and demons. [ :-^) as it were, hehe! - jk]
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The word daemon was first used as a computer term by Mick Bailey, a
British gentleman who was working on the CTSS programming staff at MIT
during the early 1960's. (footnoted: This bit of history comes from Jerry
Saltzer at MIT, via Dennis Ritchie, via Kirk McKusick.) Mick quoted the
Oxford Dictionary in support of both the meaning and spelling of the word.
Daemons made their way from CTSS to Multics to UNIX, where they are so
popular they need a superdaemon to manage them. Daemons are featured on
the cover of the BSD UNIX manuals.
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> [Heather]
I've been told that the little trident in the BSD Daemon's hands is not
a weapon, simply his implementation of the <TT> fork()</TT> system call... but I
couldn't find a canonical reference to say so.
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> [John K.]
... cyber-history class dismissed
<IMG SRC="../../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":)"
height="24" width="20" align="middle">
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These figures [defining the personality] also appear prominently in
Tibeten (and Hindu if I'm not
mistaken) drawings called mandalas. Many of the mandalas have these
figures painted in a circular or horse shoe pattern surrounding a central
figure. At the moment I forget the term that <EM>they</EM> use to name the
entities, but they are representative of universal characteristics of the
subconscious, which every person who follows "the path" must master /
transcend.
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