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<SMALL>...<I>making Linux just a little more fun!</I></SMALL>
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<STRONG>By Jim Dennis, Ben Okopnik, Dan Wilder, Breen, Chris, and...
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the Editors of <i>Linux Gazette</i>...
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<br><em><font color="#7F0000">We make <b>no guarantees</b> about answers, but you can be <b>anonymous</b> on request.</font></em>
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<H3>Contents:</H3>
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<dt><a href="#tag/greeting"
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><strong>¶: Greetings From Heather Stern</strong></A></dl>
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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alt="(?)" border="0"
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><strong>Issue 80 - The Mailbag -> Kylix - observations</strong></a>
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<dt><A HREF="tag/2.html"
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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alt="(?)" border="0"
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><strong>starting services in "/etc/init.d"</strong></a>
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<dt><A HREF="tag/3.html"
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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alt="(?)" border="0"
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><strong>A LAN Question</strong></a>
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<dt><A HREF="tag/4.html"
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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alt="(?)" border="0"
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><strong>Homework question: defining subnets</strong></a>
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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><strong>thx for ur ncurses, u have networking howto?</strong></a>
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<dt><A HREF="tag/6.html"
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><img src="../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" height="28" width="50"
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alt="(?)" border="0"
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><strong>How to kill a process in uninterruptible sleep state?</strong></a>
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<H3 align="left"><img src="../gx/dennis/hbubble.gif"
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>Greetings from Heather Stern</H3>
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Dear readers, welcome to October in the world of The Answer Gang.
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Statistics: About 680 messages this month. I say "about" because I can't count spam
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that hit the filters, and I'm not counting admin notes that I spotted and put aside
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early. That's just the total I had to split.
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Peeves of the month --or-- how <EM>not</EM> to get an answer:
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<LI>ask a question about printers, and don't bother to look at <A HREF="http://www.linuxprinting.org"
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>http://www.linuxprinting.org</A> first.
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A lot of our answers are gentle pointers to HOWTOs, as we assume real newbies
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don't know about The Linux Documentation Project (<A HREF="http://www.tldp.org"
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>http://www.tldp.org</A>) yet, either.
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<br>If you <EM>have</EM> already looked at a a HOWTO, for a pumpkin's sake do <EM>not</EM> say
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"I looked at all the HOWTOs and it made no sense." That just makes us sad and worried
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that our own answers won't help you any either.
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<br>Tell us whatever phrases confused
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you, and tell us what sort of sense you expected of it. We may be inspired to "translate"
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the techie bits into English, or point you at the pre-requisite HOWTO that goes before
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it, which already does. Probably we'd copy the maintainer so that the clearer answer
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gets to help a lot more people. If so you could feel proud you'd helped the LDP by
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making it more readable
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<LI>gosh, it's my first week of school, maybe those Answer Guys will do my homework
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for me. I dunno what the prof is talking about anyway, so I won't even rephrase
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he question.
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<br>
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<br>"sure, give us your professor, we'll advise him on a few pointers to give you." Here's
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the first hint; try the class textbook. The second: if you don't understand the
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question ask the professor about it. It's his or her job to explain it to you; you
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pay the school good money for that.
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<br>Especially distressing were the ones who want us to pick their masters thesis for them.
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Research and new insights are the basis for handing out such a degree, right? So I'd
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think it needs a bit more research than firing a note off to a batch of linux gurus
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on some mailing list somewhere. You need some background, you need a topic, you need
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some actually interesting new theory, you need some ways to test or explore that theory,
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and then you need to make the paper presentable at an academic level. I suggest typing
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the keywords "linux" and "proceedings" into the nearest search engine, and following their
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examples for style, reading them for content, and considering whether they are aiming
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for the same academic audience or if you need a slightly different tone. Simmer with
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new ideas, garnish lightly with a conclusion, publish to taste. Keep notes throughout
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and have a complete bibliography so people can follow how you came to think of it all.
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Not really a peeve at all, but rather interesting: Crossover questions with Microsoft OS'
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are up. On the other tentacle, awareness that they're talking to Linux people here is too.
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For the record two Knowledgebases might come in handy:
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<LI>ours -- <A HREF="../tag/kb.html"
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<LI>theirs -- <A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com"
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No, we have no idea whether any MS varieties can boot off a second drive. We suggest
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swapping the disks. Linux will boot fine as long as the bootloader has a kernel on
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the same media. Even if that's a floppy with SYSLINUX, or a Windows install with
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<TT>LOADLIN.EXE</TT> lying around.
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Here's a touch of what The Answer Guy himself (Jim Dennis) and I have been up to. We
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visited Portland, Oregon this weekend - meeting some old friends - and got a tip about
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this great recycling project, <A HREF="http://www.FreeGeek.Com"
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>http://www.FreeGeek.Com</A>. We swung by their offices and
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it's just the coolest thing... assuming that you find big boxes piles of discarded cards
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and monitors and so on fascinating, of course. We sure did
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<blockquote>Anyways, they get people
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in the community involved in putting these old bits back together into wimpy little
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machines that Linux can still make usable. The stuff that's hopeless, they snip the
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heavy metals and chips out of for recycling. Meanwhile some folks who previously knew
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nothing about computers, except maybe "where's the on switch" are learning how to tell
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an ethernet card from a modem, and so on. There are probably other projects like this
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out there, too. I'd like to hear from a few of them.
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Now on to some All Hallow's Eve fun.
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We really had to start coughing while cleaning out the cobwebs this time. Not one, but <EM>two</EM>
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questions about copies of <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/">Red Hat</A> so old the moths are stuffed and buzzing around with beards
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and canes. The answers weren't very tasty, so you'll be spared them.
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For slimy worms we've been pestered by the Klez worm all month. See the Two Cent Tips for
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more on <EM>that</EM>. Ugh.
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We do have some candy though.
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Ghoulies and monsters, we've got a definition of the term daemon that might
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be particularly useful this month. Plus how to get 'em started. LAN stuff
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got you spooked? We've got some great notes to chew on. if you find
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uninterruptiple sleep bothers you, we'll tell you how to kill that ghost...
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probably! Mwa ha ha ha, ha ha! See you next month!
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