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>Free Linux ISPs in France</H3>
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<p><strong>From Wilf on Sat, 2 Sep 2000
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<p><em>There've been a number of requests about ISPs offering "free"
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(but paid by ads) services and accepting rather than rejecting
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Linux users. If you're in Europe, Wilf's answer may be handy...
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and if not, his warnings are still worth regarding. -- Heather</em></p>
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Hello LGs,
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Users in France may now choose quite a few ISPs which offer
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1, 2, 3, ... 12 hours free of charge (that's to say connection, personnel
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web space, phone costs within a local area...).
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Alas, some inconveniences are:
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<BLOCKQUOTE><ol>
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<li>(having to) accept extensive advertising which (once your surfing analyzed)
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will be tailored accordingly (someone MUST pay, mustn't s/he ?
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<IMG SRC="../../gx/dennis/unsmily.gif" ALT=":-{"
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height="24" width="20" align="middle">.
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I skip details on restrictions and services which vary from one ISP to another.
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<li>most of 'em are aimed for (un)lucky Windows (Windoze?) users. Win 3.11 is
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almost always left out, and Linux even more so.
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<p><em>Exactly why everyone has been asking...</em></p>
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Having called an ISP (Free, to be precise), I received a letter and a CD in a
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surprisingly short time which included necessary information (login,
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password, POP, SMTP, DNS1 and DNS2, News and Email addresses and some example
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scripts for Linux which I strangely did not need at all) to configure
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programmes (under Linux, you've guessed it) which worked fine... after two
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nights' spent on configuring kppp.
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Users in France may check
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<a href="http://www.free.fr/">www.free.fr</a>
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for information regarding the "<em>points
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d'acc<63>s</em>" within their region of residence. They, at Free, do not
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impose such and such OS: you are free to use Windows and/or Linux or any
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other OS capable of handling Internet's protocols and some such programmes.
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This leads me to furnish a piece of information users of OLITEC modems might
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find to be just what they needed to get <em>at last</em> connected:
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I use (under <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/">Red Hat</A> 6.0) a modem of
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Olitec, the Self Memory 56000 V90/K56Flex,
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which kppp recognized straight away. However, hours and quite a couple of beers
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later, the connection was still not established, raising not only the phone bill
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but also resulting in a what now appears to be a somewhat bold head, until I
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checked out the configuration file of kppp (under the influence of suggestions
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made by a friend who cared to spend the nights in front of my compy, and not, as
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you might have suspected, under the influence of the brew, honest, we weren't
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blotto at all). Besides, fancy having a good look at his personnel (French)
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pages he painfully created under Linux and want to learn (or indulge yourself
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in reminiscences) about that famous "racing car" Gordini or R8? Check out
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<a href="http://www.amicale1134.cigale.net/">www.amicale1134.cigale.net</a>,
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it is for you!
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Well, on then: in kppp, the option "<tt>Periphery / End of Line</tt>" is set
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to "CR" by default, which the above named modem needs to be set to "../../LF".
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This done, the connection was immediate and I could surf (which I did, in fact) !!!
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Worthwhile noting, though: kppp runs without a problem when used under root,
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other users, however, need be in a group especially created and given
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the rights to use kppp! Being new to Linux, I haven't yet figured out how to
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create a group and get my current "none-root user" into it. Anyone care to help,
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please?
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<p><em>There is a file called /etc/group which declares what groups exist
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and which users are members of them. You can also be a member of
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a group if its number is your gid in the /etc/passwd file (that's
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your default group). So add your own username to the right group
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line in /etc/group (multiple users are seperated by comma, spaces
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are not needed). -- Heather</em></p>
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Another information regards reducing phone bills: again, users in France should
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contact France Telecom and subscribe to "Primaliste Internet" at 9,91 FRF (or
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1,51 Euro) per month which gives a discount of 50% on local calls using ONE
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chosen phone number and made between the (nightly) hours 22:00 and 8:00 (that's
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10 p.m. to 8 a.m., if you prefer) at 0,07 cts (or 0,01 Euro) per minute (I guess
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"Night time is the Right time", but not really an excuse to neglect your Missis!).
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Finally, a personnel request to those writing articles or documentations for
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Linux Gazette in English (be that British or American or in general): I have
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taken up to translating some of them (articles, that is) and have
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<em>not often though</em> quite some difficulties when it comes to translate (or even guess) what
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the author wanted to say. Please be precise! Phrases like "I youz, but it no
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working, pleaz hep!" don't mean much, particularly when translated. Never mind
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spelling mistakes (even God left out where/how/why he lives...), but use nouns
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or name "the things" instead. And, keep your articles coming in! (Hmmm, I hope
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editors of LG aren't grumbling so much about this invitation
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<IMG SRC="../../gx/dennis/smily.gif" ALT=":-}"
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<p><em>Quite the contraire, mon ami! We love to see new translations.
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And, while encouraging our readers to clearer sentences, I'd also
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like to encourage a bit more that helps all of us help you:
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<ul><li>Please state what sort of thing doesn't work
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<li>Please try to tell us what you were expecting it to do
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<li>...and what you tried already ("everything" doesn't cut it -
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it might actually help us realize what's going on, to know what
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sort of everyday thing didn't work; or you might have missed
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something that we, more experienced as we are, think was clear
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enough to be part of "everything" we'd try.)</ul>
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Or as I used to say, "what sort of <strong>doesn't work</strong> is it
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doing, and um, which <strong>it</strong> was that anyway?" -- Heather
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Wishing you all, at LG and 'round the globe, good continuation (and "bon
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ap<EFBFBD>tit <TT>/</TT> enjoy your meal" in case you're dining...) and, of course: "ETAHI, ERUA,
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ETORU !!!",
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<br>Sincerely Yours, Wilf (as opposed to Howling Wolf as is ham to
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bacon
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