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>Linksys Ether16 NIC installation issues, as asked...</H3>
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<p><em>[ This was our most popular question for answers from the crowd to
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From Chuck Whinney on Sun, 05 Dec 1999
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I cant seem to get my Linksys Ether16 LAN card to work under linux. I turned
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off the PnP liek teh linksys website said, and I turned the motherboard
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setting from PnP on that IRW to the ISA setting. Linux still never
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recognizes it.
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Any ideas? Thanks! Chuck
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>More on Linksys Ether16 Cards</H3>
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<p><strong>rabuno answered on Sun, 02 Jan 2000
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A loyal reader offers this answer to supplement one from
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Chuck Whinney (no email) asks you:
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<p><em>[ Nobody's email is listed in Answer Guy messages, because
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above. -- Heather ]</em></p>
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The Linksys Ether16 is a nice cheap card. Out of p-n-p mode it acts like
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a NE2000, at least close enough so the Linux ne driver has no trouble
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running it. The card comes with a DOS floppy with the configuration
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program, but Chuck shouldn't need to use that unless the card has been
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previously used (in a Winxx machine) or unless he wants to set goofy IO
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address or IRQ settings. The last couple I've purchased new ($30 at my
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local office supply store) came defaulted to NE2000 mode, IRQ=5, IO
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address=300.
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The only possible causes of trouble in Chuck's case, imho, would be:
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<li> a damaged card or a damaged slot
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<li> a conflict with some other device
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<li> Linksys has modified their chipset so the card is no longer compatable
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If Chuck continues to have troubles with the card feel free to send him my
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email & I can try to help him out.
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I loyally read your column in LG. Thanks; you are providing a great
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service. Happy New Year.
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Thanks, rabuno. I occasionally get other clarifications and
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corrections, and sometimes I'm not that good about getting them
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forwarded into the column. I'd like to thank everyone who
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>A Solution to: How to detect Linksys Ether16 Cards</H3>
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<p><strong>Claude Baker answered on Sat, 08 Jan 2000
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Here's another reader-contributed answer to using those pesky
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NE2000 clone Linksys Ether16 ethernet cards:
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The writer questions how to detect a LinkSys Ether16 and you suggest
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another card.
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I have that card in a router/firwall box which is based upon a P133 with
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a PCI motherboard. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I spent 2-3 months
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figuring out how to configure the card. As you might guess, I was
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looking in the wrong places because I thought that I was misconfiguring
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the routing and masquerading.
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The Linksys card is an ne2000 clone and it is setup using a DOS utility
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found on the driver diskette. The driver software may be downloaded from
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the LinkSys site and it is an executable that copies itself to a
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floppy. Once the download is on a floppy, a:\utility\setup queries the
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card to display IRQ and I/O addresses. The utility also allows you to
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set the desired IRQ, I/O address, and select between RJ-45 or BNC I/O on
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the card. All setup choices are saved in non-volatile memory.
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Setup on my machine also required a change in the Award BIOS - I had to
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specify the IRQ I used to be a "Legacy ISA" rather than "PCI/ISA PnP"
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for Linux.
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I spent some time setting up a Linux Router Project distribution for
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that machine and have a recollection that in addition to pulling in the
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non-PCI ne2000 module, I also needed an 8309 module. My impression is
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that the ne2000 is part of the 8309 family.
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>Linksys Ether16 NIC installation issues</H3>
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<p><strong>marcus.post answered on Tue, 11 Jan 2000
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I wanted to comment on this because some easy items where missed in
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answering this customer. THe chipset is fully supported, being an NE2000
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clone that works just fine. If he is having difficulty installing it, here's
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where he should check:
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I got about three or four items to expound on this
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message. Presumably that means that I didn't do a
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very good job answering the question.
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These days I try to forward/respond to corrections and
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commentary on the threads in previous months.
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#1 Conflicts. This is not likely a problem, since the Ether software that
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sets the IRQ and I/O of the card checks for conflicts before setting the
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resources. If you have not installed new hardware, or turned on any extra on
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board peripherals (Serial, Parallel, or USB ports), this shouldn't be an
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issue.
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I'm not familiar with this particular NE2000 clone.
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Older ethercards commonly were set by pins and jumpers.
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I'd also not trust the IRQ detection on an ISA bus.
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Classically this has not been reliable. As you suggest
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an installed card which was inactive might not respond
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to IRQ probing but could cause problems later when it
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was active.
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#2 How the driver is loaded. As a shot in the dark, you are likely using
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redhat, in which case the best choice is to use Linux Config to set up the
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module to load at boot. Most distros will work the same way, but some you
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have to manually edit rc.* files. THere is a linux-conf topic for network
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interfaces, but I forget what it is called ATM. If you have to edit the rc.*
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files, look for a <tt>rc.modules</tt> file; most distrobutions have one with the
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network card modules already specified, but commented out. Find the one with
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your module ( <tt>ne2k.o</tt> I believe) and uncomment it. In either case, don't
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worry about specifying the IRQ; you only need to note the I/O address for
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this card. <EM>VERY IMPORTANT</EM> when specifying the I/O port, use "<tt>0x320</tt>"
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instead of "<tt>320</tt>". You have to specify the number is hex, which is '<tt>0x</tt>'. So,
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if the software that disabled your plug n play on the card said it was using
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port "<tt>330</tt>", tell linux that the port is "<tt>0x330</tt>" Don't expect the module to
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autodetect the card: on this card, it almost never works (I own three of
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them personally), while autodetect works on other cards, such as my SMC. I
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don't know why, but don't count on the module to detect the card.
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I presume you're referring to the '<tt>linuxconf</tt>' program.
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I'd suggest using '<tt>insmod</tt>' to load the appropriate loadable
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module manually.
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You make a good point about using the 0x prefix to
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indicate that you are providing a hexadecimal address.
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Presumably you could convert 0x300 to its decimal equivalent
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though I've never tried it.
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One thing I do like about PCI --- it supports much
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easier and robust autodection than the old ISA cards.
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You also have chosen reasonal I/O port addresses,
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0x300, through 0x330 are the most common ethernet I/O
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base port mappings. I've also seen 0x240, and 0x280.
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#3. I dont know about ISA IRQ changes you made in the BIOS. From personal
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experience, they just aren't needed. You sound comfortable enough with them,
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so you may want to change them back to normal once you are positve the Linux
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configurations are correct and complete.
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#4 Standard troubleshooting: If you dont get an error when booting, check
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'<tt>ifconfig</tt>'. You may just need to assign the card an address, subnet, et al.
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Or, run dhcpcd if you have a DHCP server/cable modem/DSL router/whatever.
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Try a different ISA slot. If all looks good locally, but you cant reach
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outside of your own box, check your cables, subnet mask. First answer if the
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problem is hardware or software. Tackle it logically.
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I thought he specified that he was getting <tt>SIOCSIFADDR:</tt>
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errors (meaning that the driver isn't seeing the interface).
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If you can successfully set an address etc. with
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'<tt>ifconfig</tt>' then you should check for external connections,
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link lights, and similar problems.
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I have found that some 10/100 ethernet cards seem to be
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"allergic" to some hubs. So be sure to try a "known
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working" connection.
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In particular I don't like the Linksys hubs, but I've
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never had problems with the Netgear products.
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Running tcpdump on your interface can be a useful was
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to check for functionality. That should work so long
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as there is any traffic on the segment and the driver
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is loaded correctly. Thus you can isolate it to
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the higher level (addressing, masking, routing tables)
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or the lower (driver kernel, or physical link layer).
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Best of luck,
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