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<H4>"Linux Gazette...<I>making Linux just a little more fun!</I>"</H4>
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<li><a HREF="./lg_mail41.html#help">Help Wanted -- Article Ideas</a>
<li><a HREF="./lg_mail41.html#gen">General Mail</a>
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Answers to these questions should be sent directly to the e-mail address of
the inquirer with or without a copy to gazette@ssc.com. Answers that are
copied to <I>LG</I> will be printed in the next issue in the Tips column.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:59:43 -0400 (EDT)<BR>
From: Scott Searcy, <A HREF="mailto:searcys@BAYDENOC.CC.MI.US">
searcys@BAYDENOC.CC.MI.US</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Macintosh Disks</font>
<P>
Is it possible to read from, write to and format 3.5 floppies that use the
Macintosh format?
<P>
--<BR>
Scott Searcy
<blockquote> <I>
(Check out the HFS utility programs: hcd, hcopy, hdel, hmount, et al.
There's even a GUI for them called hfs. --Editor)
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:24:45 +0100 (GMT)<BR>
From: Jason Douglas Brand, <A HREF="mailto:J.D.Brand@swansea.ac.uk">
J.D.Brand@swansea.ac.uk</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Can Linux extract frames from an AVI?</font>
<P>
I only have one question. Can Linux extract frames from a compressed AVI?
If so, what is the software called and where can I get it.
I have heard that xanim can play AVI file but can it extract frames from
them.
Please help me!! You are my only hope.
<P>
--<BR>
Jason
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:30:01 -0200<BR>
From: Clovis Sena, <A HREF="mailto:csena@hotlink.com.br">
csena@hotlink.com.br</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Network boot disk for i386 without hd</font>
<P>
I have a Linux machine in my office network and several i386 that has no
hd, but has 1.44 floppy. They also have ne2000 network card, without no
proms. Is there a way to make a boot disk that allow my i386 to boot
and login into my Linux machine??? I searched the web but found only
solutions that reffer to using network cards with eproms/proms.
Thanks.
<P>
--<BR>
Clovis Sena
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:35:49 -0700<BR>
From: Mark Waddle <A HREF="mailto:markw@skeeg.com">markw@skeeg.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Linux partitions from Windows</font>
<P>
I got a question for ya... is there a driver or application I can use
to get at least read access to my Linux partitions from Windows?
Thanks,
<P>
--<BR>
Mark Waddle
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:29:44 -0700 (PDT)<BR>
From: Will Stevenson, <A HREF="mailto:transgression2@yahoo.com">
transgression2@yahoo.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">FTP access methods...</font>
<P>
Ok tough guys,
I have written down more one-liners and cool tricks
from the Linux Gazette pages than from anywhere else.
<P>
And I finally have a good question:
In both Window$ and O$/2 I had apps that would treat
ftp sites as folders (directories). It worked real
well with keeping data in sync off-site. Is there a
tool that will allow an FTP site to be mounted under
Linux? It seems fairly useful to me, but freshmeat
and other resources turned up nada.
<P>
I am working on a cool 1 disk Linux distro that has
pilot backup features and other remote file access
ideas that could really benefit from this.
<P>
Thanks for your input guys...
<P>
--<BR>
Will
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:42:13 -0500<BR>
From: "Trace & Sandy Schroeder", <A HREF="mailto:tsssjs@inxpress.net">
tsssjs@inxpress.net</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">question for the board</font>
<P>
I am confused about what I will need to install Red Hat 5.2 on my new dell
system
last attempt met me with a command line only --- xfree 3.3.3.1+ was needed
for my video card TNT chipset
however I was looking for the files - and I am hoping for RPMS outr there for
me to do it the easy way
<P>
Are there RPMS out there? and if not, why does the RPMS lag behind the
releases -
thank you very much
I am anxious to get rid of the bloatware of ms on this zippy pentium 3
<P>
--<BR>
Striker
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:23:52 +0100<BR>
From: "Darren McAndrew", <A HREF="mailto:d_mac2000@dmcandrew.freeserve.co.uk">
d_mac2000@dmcandrew.freeserve.co.uk</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">a.out binaries not working</font>
<P>
I have recently installed Linux RH5.2 and have
started learning some C. When I compile programs however I am left with
an a.out binary which does not execute. I get the message no such
command when I try to run it. I have loaded the aout libs from the cdrom
but it still does not work! When I check file permissions on it it is
listed as an executable. Could you please help me on what idiotic thing
I am doing wrong? All help appreciated.
<P>
--<BR>
Darren
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:32:48 +0200<BR>
From: Pawel Szabelski, <A HREF="mailto:szabla@vega.umcs.lublin.pl">
szabla@vega.umcs.lublin.pl</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">SCSI problem</font>
<P>
I've got some problems with my SCSI disk (IBM DDRS Ultra2Wide)
and the adapter (AIC 7880): There are some errors during read/write
operations (specially in the case of big files). The message on the
screen is like that:
<PRE>
Apr 28 14:28:57 vega kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 38902,
scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 Write (10) 00 00 2b 80 93 00 00 04 00
Apr 28 14:28:57 vega kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 38903,
scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 Write (10) 00 00 2b a3 ff 00 00 f4 00
Apr 28 14:28:59 vega kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 38902) timed out -
resetting
Apr 28 14:28:59 vega kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel
0.
Apr 28 14:28:59 vega kernel: (scsi0:0:6:0) Synchronous at 11.4
Mbyte/sec, offset
8.
</PRE>
I do not use shielded cable. What to do with this?
Thank for any help.
<P>
--<BR>
Pawel
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:55:47 +0200<BR>
From: Pepijn Schmitz, <A HREF="mailto:p.schmitz@xpuntx.nl">
p.schmitz@xpuntx.nl</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Windows NT and Linux hate each other?</font>
<P>
I've installed Linux Red Hat 5.2 on my friend's computer, and now for
some extremely odd reason the Red Hat machine and the NT Server 4.0
that's on his other machine can't see each other over the network. At
all. They don't even respond to each other's ARP requests.
<P>
The link is alive (judging from the lights on his switching hub), and
the machines can see each other fine when he runs Windows 95 on the
machine where I've installed Red Hat. TCP/IP is installed and configured
correctly on both machines. The Red Hat machine has a 10 Mbps 3COM card,
the NT machine a 100 Mbps 3COM, and the lights on the hub say that it's
using those speeds on the interfaces that the machines are on,
regardless of whether the one machine is running Linux or Windows 95.
<P>
What on Earth could be going on here?
<P>
--<BR>
Pepijn
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:03:42 -0400<BR>
From: <A HREF="mailto:brownh@hartford-hwp.com">
brownh@hartford-hwp.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Question: Editing x client fonts</font>
<P>
I experienced a dirty shutdown when some software went bezerk and
repeatly copied files from a cdrom until a HD partition filled. Running
fsck seems to have cleaned up most things, but one permanent result was
that x client fonts (the title bar and menus of windows) are a large
Helvetica regular that causes difficulty.
<P>
I run Red Hat 5.2. I found no .fvwm2rc on that system. So I copied the
file /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc as .fvwm2rc into my home directory
and edited the specification for WindowFont and MenuFont. I restarted
Fvwm2, but nothing changed (my system fonts are accessible).
<P>
Is a copy of .fvwm2rc mandatory or only optional if one wants the user
to define x client fonts, etc.?
Should a copy of system.fvwm2rc as .fvwm2rc into my home directory have
provided the user with the ability to customize X client fonts?
<P>
--<BR>
Haines Brown
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 13:13:45 +0700<BR>
From: Ruangvith Tantibhaedhyangkul, <A HREF="mailto:ruangvith@linuxfan.com">
ruangvith@linuxfan.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Need help on Internet connection with Linux</font>
<P>
I'm having (rather serious) problems with Linux. I'm using Caldera's
OpenLinux 1.3 with KDE 1.0 on Pentium 200, RAM 64 MB and SupraExpress
336i on COM3 (which works fine on 'Microsoft' Windows 98), the 2.0.35
kernel was compiled to support pentium and ppp internally. It can't be
configured to connect to Internet at all.
<P>
First I used kppp (script based), it dialed, logged in, and told me that
it was 'logging on to network'. But that was that, it stayed put, until
timed-out.
<P>
Here's what happened on script debug window:
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+++ATH
OK
ATZ
OK
ATDT2718000
CONNECT 115200Welcome to Asia-Access Internet
Host: US1
Port: S6/2
Username: ruangvit
Password:
PPP session from (203.145.0.204) to 203.145.3.105 beginning.
</PRE>
And the corresponding /var/log/messages:
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Apr 10 17:41:39 janbond syslog: ROOT LOGIN ON tty1
Apr 10 17:42:00 janbond CRON[810]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/cronloop ]
&& /usr/sbin/cronloop Hourly)
Apr 10 17:45:42 janbond xntpd[643]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum=3d7
Apr 10 17:45:42 janbond xntpd[643]: kernel pll status change 89
Apr 10 17:47:01 janbond kernel: registered device ppp0
Apr 10 17:47:01 janbond pppd[842]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Apr 10 17:47:01 janbond pppd[842]: Using interface ppp0
Apr 10 17:47:01 janbond pppd[842]: Connect: ppp0 /dev/modem
Apr 10 17:47:32 janbond pppd[842]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Apr 10 17:47:32 janbond pppd[842]: Connection terminated.
</PRE>
Someone told me to try minicom. I could log in, quited without resetting
and typed at commnd prompt 'pppd /dev/modem 38400 crtscts modem
defaultroute'. I also commented out /etc/ppp/options. Here's what
happened:
<PRE>
----------start of /var/log/messages----------
Apr 13 18:25:03 janbond pppd[947]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Apr 13 18:25:03 janbond pppd[947]: Using interface ppp0
Apr 13 18:25:03 janbond pppd[947]: Connect: ppp0 /dev/modem
Apr 13 18:28:03 janbond pppd[947]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Apr 13 18:28:03 janbond pppd[947]: Connection terminated.
----------end of /var/log/messages----------
</PRE>
Of course, on interface, it was nothing but quiet.
<P>
I tried minicom again, this time using /etc/ppp/options which looked
like:
<PRE>
----------start of /etc/ppp/options----------
-detach
modem
lock
crtscts
defaultroute
asyncmap 0
mtu 552
mru 552
lcp-max-configure 60
----------end of /etc/ppp/options----------
</PRE>
Here's what happened on the terminal:
<PRE>
----------start of login terminal----------
CONNECT 115200
Welcome to Asia-Access Internet
Host: US1
Port: S6/2
Username: ruangvit
Password:
PPP session from (203.145.0.204) to 203.145.3.105 beginning.
----------end of login terminal----------
</PRE>
I then pppd, which resulted:
<PRE>
----------start of pppd result----------
[root@janbond /root]# pppd
~=ff}#=c0!}!}!} }8}!}$}"(}"}&} } } } }%}& =ac=93=f6}'}"}(}"]}.~~=ff}#=c0!}!=
}!} }} } }
}%}& =ac=93=f6}'}"}(}"]}.~~=ff}
----------end of pppd result----------
</PRE>
And this is the corresponding /var/log/messages:
<PRE>
----------start of /var/log/options----------
Apr 14 11:16:41 janbond pppd[831]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Apr 14 11:16:41 janbond pppd[831]: Using interface ppp0
Apr 14 11:16:41 janbond pppd[831]: Connect: ppp0 /dev/ttyp0
Apr 14 11:19:41 janbond pppd[831]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Apr 14 11:19:41 janbond pppd[831]: Connection terminated.
Apr 14 11:19:41 janbond pppd[831]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Apr 14 11:19:41 janbond pppd[831]: Problem: nothing was received
Apr 14 11:19:41 janbond pppd[831]: Exit.
----------end of /var/log/messages----------
</PRE>
I tried looking up the howto's. Nothing seems to help. Neither do those gur=
us in any Linux webboard. :-(
<P>
Waiting for your kindly reply.
<P>
--<BR>
Ruangvith Tantibhaedhyangkul
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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 05:47:53 +1000<BR>
From: "Andrew K Smith", <A HREF="mailto:Andrew.Smith@webspinning.com.au">
Andrew.Smith@webspinning.com.au</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Linux and Subnets over PPP</font>
<P>
I've tried searching the Internet for this and got generally quite confused
about how to do it (and unable to get it to work!)
What I need to know is how to setup a PPP access to my Linux computer
where I give a subnet to the computer dialled in rather than just a
single IP address (i.e. networking two networks together - ISP side)
The target machine dialling in via PPP is actually WindowsNT - get no
problems when it is setup as a single IP address (and the WindowsNT
machine has it's own IP address not in my subnet) but can't seem to
get it right when the NT machine has part of my subnet.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks,
<P>
--<BR>
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:01:47 +0200 (MEST)<BR>
From: Stephan Petersen, <A HREF="mailto:sp@gtt.lth.rwth-aachen.de">
sp@gtt.lth.rwth-aachen.de</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Re: "Web pages design under Linux" (#39)</font>
<P>
I just browsed to the latest Linux Gazette, and for the life of me I can't
figure out how the article "Web pages design under Linux" got in there.
I'm not a fequent reader of the LG (but a subscriber to LJ almost from the
beginning :-), and I'm pleasantly surprised about the good quality and
high standards of the other contributions in this issue. Given that, how
did this article made it in there? :-)
<P>
If I were new to Linux, but knew something about web design, after reading
this article I would say even DOS must be a better choice of OS for web
design! If I knew Linux, but I'm new to web design, this article would
easily convince me that Linux has next to nothing to offer to get a gentle
start into web design. And if you know both, well, you wonder how many
people who count themselves to the previous two groups get scared off...
<P>
The title has not much at all to do with the article. Giving an overview
is fine, but not mentioning even a fraction of the many great tools that
Linux *does* have for web design, and not even giving *one* useful link to
follow up on and to find a page that *does* have some info that deserves
the name of the title, but instead sports silly things like "A true web
page is made by hand" should be enough reason to not publish such an
article until its reworked.
<P>
An article doesn't have to be long to be right for LG, nor does it have to
cover a subject completely. But an article with *this* title should give
the reader a little kickstart in the right direction, and I just don't see
that happening.
<P>
Otherwise, keep up the great work, I enjoy the LG! I consider it a very
useful addition to LJ.
<P>
All the best,
<P>
--<BR>
Stephan
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:07:52 -0400<BR>
From: "Scott Carle", <A HREF="mailto:carle@sccoast.net">carle@sccoast.net</A>
<BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Web page design under Linux</font>
<P>
I have a request. Find some programs equivalent to FrontPage by Microsoft
that can run under Linux and do a second article in the Linux Gazette. I
found your statement that "A true web page is made by hand" to be very
narrow minded and limiting.
<P>
I learned how to code by hand a long time ago and was never so happy as when
WYSIWYG editors came out. Coding by hand is incredibly slow compared to a
decent program such as Aolpress, FrontPage, Hotdog, Dreamweaver, NetObjects
Fusion, or one of the other drag and drop editors. Today's websites with
Java scripts and dhtml and all the other extras that are taken for granted
would take forever to develop by hand. I agree that hand coding is leaner
and meaner but trade offs have to be made between that and speed, especially
when done commercially and charged by the hour. Also the site management
features offered in a decent websuite are something that a
webmaster/developer desperatly needs on large multi-page sites.
Thank You,
<P>
--<BR>
Scott
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:48:51 -0600<BR>
From: Warren Young, <A HREF="mailto:tangent@cyberport.com">
tangent@cyberport.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">LG email on DTP under Linux</font>
<P>
In Issue 40, there's an e-mail from Michael J. Hammel answering some
complaints someone had about the current state of GUI prepress software
for Linux. In it, he said that "there aren't any such tools yet
announced for Linux". That hasn't been true for a couple of months now:
like many other people, he's forgotten that Corel has a full-scale
publishing package: Corel Ventura.
<P>
As everyone's heard now, Corel has promised to port all their apps to
Linux by the beginning of next year. So far as I recall, this includes
Ventura.
<P>
One other nit: Michael wrote that Windows has an 8-year lead on Linux.
Actually, it has a 14-year lead: Windows 1.0 was released in 1985, and
their focus has always been on ease of use. Recall that Windows was
started in late 1983 after some Microsoft folk visited Apple and saw
preproduction versions of the Mac.
<P>
Although X was started around the same time, Michael is right that the X
world hasn't focused on newbie-user simplicity until very recently.
Sure, X makes a Unix box easier to use just because it's a GUI, but
until GNOME and KDE came on the scene, X never really hid anything the
way that the Mac and Windows do.
<P>
-- <BR>
Warren
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:26:01 -0500<BR>
From: "Clements, John", <A HREF="mailto:jcclemen@SHERWIN.RMC.com">
jcclemen@SHERWIN.RMC.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Linux Gazette Format</font>
<P>
Maybe a detail,
<P>
Many of us have and use Linux, but are still bound by the need to
standardize in the corporate world to the Windows environment. As a Linux
newbie, I still do not have a high speed modem bought and installed on my
Linux box at home so have no way to get the tar, etc formats, and, of
course, many of us have a higher speed lines at work. Is there a way to
download the file in a format that can be unzipped, etc. on a Windows
workstation then print out? Also, a format easily read by Windows machines
would make publicizing the Linux system possible to others now using
Windows. For example, our local PCC users club(Coastal Areas PC Users
Group, www.caug-pc.org http://www.caug-pc.org) has a web site. I guess
what I'm saying, is if we only publish Linux documents in formats that Linux
users and/or Linux gurus can use, how do we grow the user base?
<P>
Thanks for listening to the rant...
<P>
--<BR>
JCC
<blockquote> <I>
(I must admit to being a total Linux/UNIX person. Our office is a Linux shop
and UNIX tools are what I have access to. I have never used Windows
and have no idea what sort of files might be compatible with that system. I
assume HTML is, so when you are at work, just download the TWDT file.
Perhaps someone else knows a better answer. --Editor) </I> </blockquote>
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:37:00 -0500<BR>
From: Dwain Hargrave, <A HREF="mailto:dwain.hargrave@udfc.com">
dwain.hargrave@udfc.com</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">www.linuxgazette.com</font>
<P>
I like the changes you made to it. It look very good. Thought I let
you know.
<P>
--<BR>
Dwain
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:49:46 -0800<BR>
From: Richard Mckinney, <A HREF="mailto:rmck@alaska.net">rmck@alaska.net</A>
<BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Not Linux</font>
<P>
Replace the Explorer in the shell= statement of your system.ini file and
watch those mouse addicts cringe in horror.
<P>
--<BR>
Rich
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:10:50 -0500<BR>
From: "Ronald E. Bloss", <A HREF="mailto:rebloss@swbell.net">
rebloss@swbell.net</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">re: KDE is bloated and slow</font>
<P>
Hear, Hear.
<P>
I feel the same way. One very obvious example is running StarOffice
5.0. Under KDE, I thought it was really slow and would not have even
considered using it. However, under just fvwm2 or another standard
window manager, it is quite responsive. I was ready to throw StarOffice
away until I tried without KDE.
<P>
--<BR>
Ronald E. Bloss
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:09:58 -0500<BR>
From: "Diane Gartner", <A HREF="mailto:dgwhiz@earthling.net">
dgwhiz@earthling.net</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Linux people excluded</font>
<P>
On Tuesday, April 27th, I stopped by the Ralph Nader/James Love "Appraising Microsoft" site, just to see what was up with their upcoming conference on April 30th. I found the pages outlining their agenda plus speakers.
<P>
At http://www.appraising-microsoft.org/ams2-panels.html, you'll find their Agenda, where the last panel supposedly covers...
<ul>
<li> Panel Four 3:15 p.m. - 4:45 p.m.
<li> Non antitrust remedies
<ul>
<li> Government and private procurement policies
<ul>
<li> Consumer Boycotts
<li> Linux, xBSD and other free software
<li> Alternative commercial operating systems, such as
<li> BeOS, Mac-X OS, Amiga, New Deal
</ul></ul></ul>
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Notice that NewDeal Office, which isn't an operating system, is listed there, while OS/2, DOS, Netware, QNX, etc. are missing. Secondly, the workshops don't actually discuss the other OSs in an detail; so even if those platforms are listed, they still have no representatives at the conference.
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The same applies to Linux. If you check their list of speakers [URL below], you'll see that while the list includes CEOs from Caldera and RedHat, it has no corporate official from other software vendors, nor any independent Linux programmers, resellers, or user groups who could offer their own insights to the public.
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This conference is much like their first one in Nov 1997. After so many of us had protested the first conference's mistakes and had asked for corrections to the A.M. site-- e.g. their handling of operating systems and user groups-- it's hard to just sit back and attribute this 2nd conference as some sort of "mistake" or "oversight" based merely on ignorance.
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James Love isn't merely forgetting about the software and groups we care about. He simply doesn't _respect_ us and doesn't want to include us in his conference.
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As he told me in a telephone conversation, "[not verbatim] "What have these user groups and programmers done? What remedies have these people ever proposed that would convince us they deserve to be included? We need people who have ideas, who know what they're talking about, who can speak...."
<P>
It's time to send him your answers to his questions.
<P>
Steps you can take:
<ol>
<li> Go to the A.M. website, and check out the Speakers [http://www.appraising-microsoft.org/speakers2.html] and Agenda [http://www.appraising-microsoft.org/ams2-panels.html pages.
<li> E-mail a respectful complaint to James Love and Ralph Nader. Politely let them know that their conference should be open and inclusive to all OSs, user groups, developers, resellers etc..
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NOTE! If you yourself belong to a group that should be included, then give Love all the contact info he needs to reach you, so that you may be invited to his next conference. Insist on it. :)
<li> If you can telephone them, consider calling the A.M. contact person, Donna Colvin, at 202-387-8030, where James Love also can be reached.
</ol>
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--<BR>
Diane Gartner,
IACT Co-ordinator<BR>
International Alliance for Compatible Technology,
<A HREF="http://pages.cthome.net/iact/">http://pages.cthome.net/iact/</A>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:11:31 -0700<BR>
From: "John F. Kohler", <A HREF="mailto:jkohler2@earthlink.net">
jkohler2@earthlink.net</A> <BR>
Subject: <font color="navy">Re: Something for very new beginners</font>
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I suggest a portion of your publication be devoted
to really simple answere to very basic questions.
<P>
I have installed Red Hat Linux in an i486 computer, and
have just picked up bits and pieces of how to connect
to a modem, how to setup ppp configuration using the
command line prompts, and how to start XFree86.
<P>
For old-time experienced Linux users, these must sound like very simple
tasks, but from my ignorant state, they are like unclimbable mountains.
<P>
--<BR>
John
<blockquote> <I>
(Well, the way it works is you send your questions to me, I post them in the
Mail Bag and then you get answers by e-mail. Copies of answers sent to me are
posted in the 2 Cent tip section. We get a lot of basic questions so you could
just search issues for keywords. (When the search works again--hopefully next
week.)
</I> </blockquote> <blockquote> <I>
Ron Jenkins series Linux Primer is really good for newcomers.
He's done 9 installments now so go back and read the first one.
</I> </blockquote> <blockquote> <I>
I hope you'll find answers in our mag. If not
today, then send in your questions. I guarantee you'll get plenty of answers.
--Editor)
</I> </blockquote>
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