diff --git a/LDP/ldpwn/20050914.xml b/LDP/ldpwn/20050914.xml
index c1f1dc71..75806fc5 100644
--- a/LDP/ldpwn/20050914.xml
+++ b/LDP/ldpwn/20050914.xml
@@ -20,7 +20,15 @@
 
 <para>Checking for inactive maintainers</para>
 
-<para>Machtelt Garrels, newly appointed Review Coordinator, took a dive into the HOWTO collection.  All authors of inactive documents (not updated this year) were contacted and asked if they planned to update their documents any time soon.  The results of this are <ulink url="http://www.tldp.org">here</ulink> and <ulink url="http://tille.xalasys.com/training/tldp/authors.php">here</ulink>.</para>
+<para>Machtelt Garrels, newly appointed Review Coordinator, took a dive
+into the HOWTO collection.  All authors of inactive documents (not
+updated this year) were contacted and asked if they planned to update
+their documents any time soon.  The <ulink
+url="http://tille.xalasys.com/training/tldp/authors.php">results of the
+effort</ulink> are available.  In case you can get in touch with any of
+the inactive document authors and maintainers of the documents that you
+use often, please send in the information to the
+<email>feedback@en.tldp.org</email> address.  </para>
 
 </listitem>
 
@@ -42,6 +50,31 @@ mailinglist. The pros and cons of a wiki for TLDP were discussed, and finally it
 
 </listitem>
 
+<listitem>
+
+<para>HOWTOs for Hardware</para>
+
+<para>While on the discussion about the demo page that was setup by jdd at
+<ulink url="http://dodin.org/~tldp/mw/index.php/Main_Page" />, Saqib Ali
+said that TLDP as it currently exist should now retire as most
+of the HOWTOs (including ones authored by him) are not needed anymore, since the
+linux
+distros and other opensource apps have started producing excellent
+documentation.  David Lawyer <ulink
+url="http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:9643:200509:claiepedajakajhoajgg">responded</ulink>
+saying <quote>There is more need than ever for HOWTOs covering hardware.
+The apps
+seldom cover hardware and if they do, may not cover it adequately.
+One problem is that there is a lot of hardware that doesn't work with
+Linux due to Windows-only drivers.  In other cases the hardware will
+work under Linux but doesn't have all its features supported by the
+Linux driver.  Also, some hardware is defective in design, but will
+still work if the driver has a workaround.  Currently, there's only
+limited coverage of hardware by HOWTOs and much of it is
+out-of-date.</quote></para>
+
+</listitem>
+
 </itemizedlist>
 
 </sect1>